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Searching for any information on henry bills b 1845 (father was thomas)married Eliza Witherington...children emma, thomas, hannah, george, lamar left crawley for the states.from what I understand born in Crawley...Eliza Witherington' s was John...Henry's occupation in the states was chain maker...please if anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
Cathy Lee

I am moving this over to the Black Country section.
Jo

This looks like it is your family on BCC

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =973796748

From Ancestry,
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973.

Spouse: Henry Bills. Age: 33. Father: Thomas Bills.
Eliza Witherington. Age: 25. Father: John Witherington.
Marriage Date: 23 Aug 1875.
Marriage Place: St. James, Gateshead, Durham, England.
Father: John Witherington.
FHL Film Number: 1514592.
Reference ID: EP GASJ2 p141#282.

Under Billo. no father with them.

From Ancestry,
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957.
Record Image View

Name: Eliza Billo.
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1881.
Birth Date: abt 1842.
Age: 39.
Gender: Female.
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English.
Place of Origin: England.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland.
Destination: United States of America.
Port of Arrival: New York, New York.
Ship Name: Arizona.
Search Ship Database: Search for the Arizona in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database.



Eliza Bills. 39. Wife.
Emma Bills 9.
Benjamin Bills. 8.
Lamar Bills.5.
Thomas Bills. 4.
Annie Bills. 2.
Henry Bills. Infant.

Jimmy wrote:Under Billo. no father with them.

From Ancestry,
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957.
Record Image View

Name: Eliza Billo.
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1881.
Birth Date: abt 1842.
Age: 39.
Gender: Female.
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English.
Place of Origin: England.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland.
Destination: United States of America.
Port of Arrival: New York, New York.
Ship Name: Arizona.
Search Ship Database: Search for the Arizona in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database.


Name: John Coneas. 35, Labourer.

Eliza Bills. 39. Wife.
Emma Bills 9.
Benjamin Bills. 8.
Lamar Bills.5.
Thomas Bills. 4.
Annie Bills. 2.
Henry Bills. Infant.

After looking at the image again it looks like Eliza is down as wife to John Coneas.

If this is them the ages are out.

1900.
Henry Bills.
Age: 51.
Birth Date: Jan 1849.
Birthplace: England.
Home in 1900: Lebanon Ward 3, Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
Race: White.
Gender: Male.
Relation to Head of House: Head.
Marital Status: Married.
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bills.
Marriage Year: 1866.
Years Married: 34.
Father's Birthplace: England.
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: View on Image.
Neighbors: View others on page.
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Bills 51. Chain maker. England.
Eliza Bills 50. England.
Alica Bills 13.
Albert Bills 11.
George Bills 7.
Madge Bills 4.

Others born Pennsylvania.

It seems that Lamar is Tamar,

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874.
BILLS Tamar. Bury South Bury. mothers maiden name WITHINGTON. BS/38/96.

yes, Jimmy that is my family in Pennsylvania. I am fascinated with the fact that you found Lamar is really Tamar and his birth...we're you able to find Emma ' s birth anywhere in the records...she was my ggrandmother, apparently the oldest of all the children born in 1873 according to US census records. I can't explain the birth dates being out of whack unless someone in the family just guessed. I so impressed with what you have discovered. Is there anyway to find out more on Henry's wife Eliza Withingtom...she used her last name for a middle name for some of her children that were born here. I really appreciate your help...being very new at this I can spend hours going nowhere...you are fantastic.
Thanks so much for all your help.
Cathy

Thanks to you I found Tamer Bills here in the states. She married an Artemus Welsh from Wales here in 1889. I thought Lamar had died...as I couldn't find him anywhere...didnt know he was a she
Thanks for helping me with ever extending puzzle...one more piece as just hit the tree thanks to you.
Cathy Lee

Any idea where Emma was born.?

A poss for Eliza,

Births Mar 1844.
Withington Eliza. Stone. 17. 219.

Eliza Witherington.
England Births and Christenings.
Name: Eliza Witherington.
Gender: Female.
Christening Date: 11 Feb 1844.
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,STONE,STAFFORD,ENGLAND.
Father's Name: John Witherington.
Mother's Name: Jane.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06773-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 435857, 435858, 435859, 435860.

1851. Church St, Stone, Staffordshire.
John Wetherington 29. Cordwainer. Fulford, Staffs.
Jane Wetherington 26. Stone.
Eliza Wetherington 7. Stone.

Jimmy wrote:A poss for Eliza,

Births Mar 1844.
Withington Eliza. Stone. 17. 219.

Eliza Witherington.
England Births and Christenings.
Name: Eliza Witherington.
Gender: Female.
Christening Date: 11 Feb 1844.
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,STONE,STAFFORD,ENGLAND.
Father's Name: John Witherington.
Mother's Name: Jane.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06773-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 435857, 435858, 435859, 435860.

1851. Church St, Stone, Staffordshire.
John Wetherington 29. Cordwainer. Fulford, Staffs.
Jane Wetherington 26. Stone.
Eliza Wetherington 7. Stone.

Can't be the one above.
1881. Stone, Staffordshire.
John Withington 60. Shoe maker.
Jane Withington 57.
Eliza Withington 36. Dau. Dress maker.

All born Stone.

There are another 2 possibles,


Births Jun 1844.
Witherington Eliza. Wimborne. 8. 143.

Can't find 1851.


1861. Cranborne, Dorset.
John Shearing 51. Black smith. Cranborne, Dorset.
Rachael Shearing 50. Wimborne, Dorset.
Israel Shearing 14. Son. Cranborne, Dorset.
Eliza Witherington 16. Niece. Domestic servant. Cranborne, Dorset.
Ketura Shearing 3. Granddaughter. Southampton, Hampshire.




Births Mar 1844.
Withington Eliza. Madeley. 18. 104.

1861. Shifnall, Shropshire.
John Withington 36. Forge man.
Mary W Withington 23.
Eliza Withington 16.
Thomas Withington 14.
John H Withington 12.
Sarah Withington 10.
Edward Withington 2. Shifnal, Shropshire.

Others born Dawley, Shropshire.

moving to brickwalls