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*ARC TBC* Barnsley or Nock----JO sorting

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:29 am
by Northern Lass
Ok....Solomon Nock or Solomon Barnsley or Solomon Barnsley Nock

1st Marriage is Solomon Barnsley
2nd marriage Solomon Nock

father a Thomas Nock

son a Joseph Barnsley Nock

Can anyone find a bapt for Solomon Barnsley pls

and a Thomas Nock higgler or Thomas Barnsley higgler on 1841

also any bapts for Solomons kids by Mary Ann Hill pls

here is solomon
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =542410091

also ...does he connect here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=337716


note Eliza Barnsley marries as Eliza Nock

here are family on 1841
not added em as not sure w'out bapts how to add
will add as Barnsley those from Andrew if no bapt.


1841
Lyeforge Road, Old Swinford, Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England

Solomon Barnsley 25 1816
Mary Barnsley 30
Andrew Barnsley 10
Ann Barnsley 5
Eliza Barnsley 4
Mary Barnsley 3

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:28 am
by BC Wench
That baptism or burial for Solomon is a Baptism.

From FreeREG
County Staffordshire
Place Rowley Regis
Church name St Giles
Register type
Baptism date 24 Dec 1809
Person forename Solomon
Person sex M
Mother forename Ann
Mother surname NOCK
Notes Base born

A Vicar wouldn't normally put Base Born if it was a burial.

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:54 am
by Northern Lass
BC Wench wrote:That baptism or burial for Solomon is a Baptism.

From FreeREG
County Staffordshire
Place Rowley Regis
Church name St Giles
Register type
Baptism date 24 Dec 1809
Person forename Solomon
Person sex M
Mother forename Ann
Mother surname NOCK
Notes Base born

A Vicar wouldn't normally put Base Born if it was a burial.



right thanks Barb will amend

I dont think it is him anyway...........or is it :?

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 5:19 pm
by mumbles
There are quite a few entries on Bcc where families switch back and forth to Nock and Barnsley and Barnsley Nock

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 7:37 pm
by grangers14
I cant get my head around it at all. Been looking for ages...
In 1871, Solomons sons is living nextdoor married to a Sarah Jane, possibly Nicholls, I cant see the marriage on free reg so will ask for a look up. Might be worth seeing what his name is on there?

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
NICHOLLS Sarah J NOCK Thomas Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/003/232


I have looked for Andrew Barnsley from 1841, no luck under any surname. No death or marriage? Not looked for Ann or Mary from 1841... Eliza I think on 1851 is down as 15, although it is hard to read.
Where does Higgler come in, I cant see anything that may even be possible?

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:36 am
by Northern Lass
That is interesting JO will have a look at that census.

Also why cant this marriage be found in the transcripts at St Mary I have looked
not on free reg
nor in the holy trinity wordsley book
have looked


Thomas Barnsley.
Spouse's Name: Ann Jones.
Event Date: 27 Oct 1833.
Event Place: Kingswinford, Stafford.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01234-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
GS Film number: 1470765.

wanted to see who the wits were

anyone find any bapts for the kids of Solomon nock?


Higgler was on marriage of Solomon his 2nd one

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:38 am
by rockyfowler
30 Nov 1870
Thomas NOCK 23 B Miner Ruiton Street Father Solomon Nock Labourer
Sarah Jane NICHOLLS 26 S Nailer Ruiton Street Father Edward Nicholls (Dec) Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Dinah Carter X / Edward Brookes

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:54 am
by Northern Lass
poss

Deaths Jun 1842 NOCK Mary Barnsley Stourbridge 18 345

Deaths Dec 1844 NOCK Mary Barnsley Stourbridge 18 385

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:55 am
by Northern Lass
rockyfowler wrote:30 Nov 1870
Thomas NOCK 23 B Miner Ruiton Street Father Solomon Nock Labourer
Sarah Jane NICHOLLS 26 S Nailer Ruiton Street Father Edward Nicholls (Dec) Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Dinah Carter X / Edward Brookes



brill thanks rf will add so that Thomas is son of Solomon.

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:50 am
by Northern Lass
I can't see anything for an Andrew Barnsley/Nock
no death or marriage etc.

I think Mary dau and Mary snr are the ones here
but without certifs not sure
have put for a look up at Oldswinford burials.
Deaths Jun 1842 NOCK Mary Barnsley Stourbridge 18 345

Deaths Dec 1844 NOCK Mary Barnsley Stourbridge 18 385


stuck :?

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:14 am
by Northern Lass
I think Andrew is an Andrew HILL

son of Mary


Marriages Dec 1856 Hill Andrew Stourbridge 6c 253

1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HILL Andrew BAKER Priscilla Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/004/30

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:35 pm
by grangers14
I have info on Thomas and will add that later...
Jo :)

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:59 am
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:I think Andrew is an Andrew HILL

son of Mary


Marriages Dec 1856 Hill Andrew Stourbridge 6c 253

1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HILL Andrew BAKER Priscilla Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/004/30


wasnt this marriage checked it out.

so I am done on this

Re: Barnsley or Nock

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:59 am
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:I have info on Thomas and will add that later...
Jo :)



Thanks Jo will change title so you own it! :grin: :wink:

Re: Barnsley or Nock----JO sorting

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 4:47 pm
by grangers14
I have added what I can...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=338969

I dont think we can do more...
Jo :)