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Look at this!!

we Have Emily Matilda Hayward here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =576029201

and I think her marriage.....

looked up by RF
20 June 1898 St Thomas Dudley
Harry Augustus Rose 26 widower terracotta maker The Knowle Rowley David Rose Deceased farmer
Emily Matilda Hayward 28 spinster Darby End William Hayward Deceased engineer
banns
both signed
wit William faulks J? S? Faulks signed


but then also this
3 Feb 1896 St Michaels and all angels Oldbury
Harry Rose 24 bach moulder Wolverhampton David Rose deceased labourer
Annie Eliza Hayward 19 spinster 17 Springfield William Hayward deceased engineer
banns
both sign
wit John William Cooper Jessie Beddow

my feeling is they are the same
age for her out
marital status for him wrong
occup on father for him diff
occup on father for her same
moulder occup .....could be connected with pottery bus.

so I need some census pls for Annie Eliza or Emily Matilda Hayward
and
David Rose pls

after their marriage /s

did Annie Eliza Hayward have a sister Emily Matilda?

did Harry Augustus rose marry sisters?


and where is his birth cant find it.


his age is same on both marriages b abt 1872

1901 Red Cow Dudley
Samuel Perry head married 52 farmer and Publican own account home
Mary Perry wife 53
Harry Rose son in law 28 pottery labourer earth
Emily Rose dau 27
Dora M Rose gdau 1
Mary A? Taylor boarder 12
all born Rowley Regis

poss birth on free reg of 1869 which matches the marriage in 1898
age on census out but think it is dau...or one of them of Mary and Wm Hayward

First name(s) ANNIE ELIZA
Last name ROSE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 18
Death quarter 2
Death year 1896
District DUDLEY
County Staffordshire
Volume 6C
Page 55
Country England

1881
6, Halesowen Road,Old Hill Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
James Guest Head Married Beerhouse Keeper Male 65
Matilda Guest Wife Married Female 63
Ann M Guest Unmarried Daughter Female 29
Thomas Guest Unmarried Son Fitter Male 18
Ann Cole Unmarried Grand daughter Female 5 Scholar
Mary Hayward Widow Head Widow Female 33 1848 - Old Hill, Staffordshire, England
Ann E Hayward Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Old Hill, Staffordshire, England

1871

William Hayward Head - Male 28 1843 Colliery Engine Driver- Staffordshire, England
Mary Hayward Wife - Female 23 1848 - Staffordshire, England
Emma M Hayward Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Worcestershire, England

So does look like both sisters

do we have the sisters together on census ?

Deaths Jun 1896.
Rose Annie Eliza. 18. Dudley. 6c. 55.

It was at the time illegal to marry a sister or brother in law.

Jimmy wrote:Deaths Jun 1896.
Rose Annie Eliza. 18. Dudley. 6c. 55.

It was at the time illegal to marry a sister or brother in law.

oooooh! was it deffo Jimmy?
bit of goss!!

12 Apr 1896 St Luke Reddal Hill
Annie Eliza ROSE , Netherton, age 18 years

Re: Somat dead weird here....Help pls guys and gals!

Postby rockyfowler » Thu May 07, 2015 10:32 am
1881
6, Halesowen Road,Old Hill Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
James Guest Head Married Beerhouse Keeper Male 65
Matilda Guest Wife Married Female 63
Ann M Guest Unmarried Daughter Female 29
Thomas Guest Unmarried Son Fitter Male 18
Ann Cole Unmarried Grand daughter Female 5 Scholar
Mary Hayward Widow Head Widow Female 33 1848 - Old Hill, Staffordshire, England
Ann E Hayward Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Old Hill, Staffordshire, England
Last edited by rockyfowler on Thu May 07, 2015 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.



James Guest
mentioned in the record of James Guest and Matilda Plant
Name:
James Guest
Spouse's Name:
Matilda Plant
Event Date:
15 Mar 1835
Event Place:
Old Swinford,Worcester,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04027-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 527938, 527939, 527940, 527942, 527943, 533992, 533993, 533994, 533995, 533996

Richard 111 married his sister in law

1881. 106 Dudley Rd, Rowley Regis.
David Rose 31. Labourer. Northfield.
Betsy Rose 30. Northfield.
Harry Rose 10. Son. Rowley Regis.
Harriet Rose 7. Dau. Rowley Regis.
Frederick George Rose 1. Son. Rowley Regis.

http://www.genetic-genealogy.co.uk/Toc115570145.html

From Ancestry,

in the Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937


Name: David Rose. Bachelor. Labourer. Edgbaston Rd.
Gender: Male.
Marriage Date: 25 Sep 1870.
Marriage Age: Full.
Marriage Place: Edgbaston, St Bartholomew, Warwickshire, England.
Spouse: Betsey Ward.
Spouse Gender: Female. Spinster. Edgbaston Rd.
Spouse Marriage Age: Full.
Father: David Rose. Labourer.
Spouse's Father: George Ward. Farmer.
Reference Number: DRO 53.
Archive Roll: M149.

David made his mark, Betsey signed.

Witnesses,
Joseph Smith,
Abel Rooke.