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Ok, I have two John Griffiths in my family tree. Uncle and Nephew


It's a little bit twisted, but the Nephew married the Uncles daughter Mary Ann Griffiths


Now, I'm trying to find out who John (Uncle) married

I have found this family on 1901 Census


45 Wellington St, Old Hill

GRIFFITHS John 30 Forge Labourer
GRIFFITHS Ann M 32 b
GRIFITHS Edward B son 11
GRIFFITHS Jason son 7
GRIFFITHS Mary A dau 4
GRIFFITHS Harry son 8 months


Now on Mary Ann's and John wedding certificate their adrress is listed as 46 Wellington St, Old Hill

So, is this uncanny or what? John was born 1871 in RR and Mary Ann was born abt 1898 also in RR

The above ages fit with what we already know and also there is another bit of trivia for Mary Ann. Seems she was known to all and sundry and Cissie/Sissy, which made finding a marriage a little difficult. I had more or less figured that Cissie was a nickname and that she would have had at least one older sibilng. So, by my reckoning this family is looking more and more like the right one as Mary Ann has two older brothers and one younger, which would explain how she came to be known as Cissie.

Does anyone else agree with me in that this is the family I'm looking for and moiher of Mary Ann is Ann M?

Next problem is that I don't seem to be able to find a marriage for John and Ann M that fits with the eldest boy being born about 1890 Makes me wonder if they were naughty and he was born before they married.

Could this be the marriage:

Marriages Sep 1889

Evans Ellen Dudley 6c 113
Griffiths John Dudley 6c 113
NICHHOLDS Francis Dudley 6c 113
Parsons Anne Matilda Dudley 6c 113
Parsons Annie Matilda Dudley 6c 113

Genealogy Fan wrote:Could this be the marriage:

Marriages Sep 1889

Evans Ellen Dudley 6c 113
Griffiths John Dudley 6c 113
NICHHOLDS Francis Dudley 6c 113
Parsons Anne Matilda Dudley 6c 113
Parsons Annie Matilda Dudley 6c 113

Could well be... just need to find out who John married and if it's Ann M (whoever).

nutsy always have a look on the bmsgh site or IGI as you need to be sure who married who out of all those
that married on the same entry so

1889
PARSONS Annie M GRIFFITH John Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/7/305

Ta mucho NL... I'll keep it in mind to check the bmsgh site... I did look on IGI, but had no luck.

You're a hunny

If you need a look up on that add it to the list

Is this now completed for now pend a look up...

Found on 1881 Census:-Wellington Street Old Hill Staffs.
Benjamin Parsons 38 Chain Maker b.Cradley Heath Staffs.
Kezia Parsons 37
Ann M. Parsons 12
Mary A. Parsons 7
Benjamin Parsons 15 Lab. In Rivet Wks
Rest born Old Hill Staffs.

Could be Anne Matilda Parsons and Wellington Street fits.

Not on my Parsons records so will investigate further

Found Benjamin Parsons and Kezia in Wellington Street on 1881 ( Ann M. Parsons aged 12 with them) and 1901 Census but in 1861 :-
Cherry Orchard Rowley Regis Staffs.
Benjamin Parsons Boarder 29 Chain Maker
Keziah Parsons 27 Nail Maker
Benjamin Parsons 5
Matilda Parsons 2

Note Matilda which confirms she is Anne Matilda Parsons

Have also found them in 1861 Slack Hillock Rowley Regis
Benjamin Parsons 23 ChainMaker
Keziah Parsons 18

Poss
1871
108
Cherry Orchard, Rowley
Charles Atkins 66 - Miner
Betsey Atkins 49
Sabra Atkins 32
Ann ME Atkins 22
Fanny Atkins 19
Charles Atkins 17 - Miner
Mary A Atkins 11
Benjamin Atkins 8
John Atkins 9
Honor Atkins 6
Benjamin Parsons 29 - Boarder - Chainmaker
Keziah Parsons 27 - Nailmaker
Benjamin Parsons 5
Matilda Parsons 2
all b Rowley

1859
PARSONS Benjamin ATKINS Kezia Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/003/309

Batch # I023017
Benjamin Parsons
Marriages:
Spouse: Kezia Atkins
Marriage: 26 DEC 1859 St Edmund'S, Dudley

Northern Lass wrote:If you need a look up on that add it to the list

Is this now completed for now pend a look up...

Thanks NL... but aren't you rather snowed under? Don't want to weigh you down too much as I've others I need looking up too...

Maybe I'll pop them on and then whenever you get around to it, is fine.

More marriage lookups.. also to do with John Griffiths thread


These are siblings of Mary Ann


GRIFFITHS Edward B NOCK Edith 1914 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office West Midlands 19/4/386

GRIFFITHS Harry ALLEN Elsie 1920 Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office West Midlands 18/11/250

GRIFFITHS Robert HALL Nellie 1929 West Bromwich, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office West Midlands 25/9/441


Father of all the boys should hopefully be John Griffiths

Well yes I am but add them to the correct thread under look up requests will you Nutsy
and I will do my best!

So can you move em to there please chuck!
cos if they stay here they dont get added!

Done mate! But no hurry ok... just whenever you get around to it is fine.

Can't have you wearing yourself out on our behalf