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Hello everyone.. Im trying to find the birth of william smith, and also his parents... Ive come to a sticking point with them now, all I really know of his birth is that it is Netherton,or and Dudley...

I can follow him back through a number of censuses but his marriage, sadly.. shows no father.. (he was married to a Parthena Car(e)less

moved to BC section.

Ok so this is Parthena?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =455551996

do you have the marriage info?

or can someone post the marriage pls we can look up?

13 May 1853 St Thomas Dudley
William SMITH M B Furnace Man Dudley (Father & Occupation Blank)
Parthena CARLESS M S Dudley Father John Carless Engineer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; James Parkes X / Ellen Parkes X

1871
Griffin Row, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
William Smith Head Labourer - Male 37 1834 - Worcestershire, England
Pathaniah Smith Wife - Female 38 1833 - Worcestershire, England
John Smith Son - Male 16 1855 - Worcestershire, England
Thomas Smith Son - Male 12 1859 - Worcestershire, England
Martha Smith Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Worcestershire, England
William Smith Son - Male 7 1864 - Worcestershire, England
Phoebe Smith Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Worcestershire, England

Thanks Rf

can we find him on earlier census pls

1861: Wesleyan Chapel, Church Road, Dudley
Phebe Carless 65 Head Wid Nailer
Robert Watson 41 Lodger Wid Labourer
Ester Watson 18 Dau Unm Nailer
Caroline Watson 13 Dau
William Smith 26 Lodger Furnace Labourer
Pashena Smith 28 Wife
John Smith 6 Son
Elizth Smith 4 Dau
Thomas Smith 2 Son
Martha Smith 2 mths Dau
(all born Dudley)

1881; 18 ward st, bilston

William Smith 49 blast furnaceman, netherton
Robina (Pathania) Smith 49 dudley
John Smith 26 blast furnace engineer, dudley
William Smith 17 blast furnace labourer, dudley
Phoebe Smith 11 dudley
Hannah Smith 8
Joseph Smith 6
Alice Smith 4
Ryah Smith 5
John Smith 3
rest bilston

1901 withy lane, sedgley

Willm Smith 39 loco driver at steel works, netherton
Phoebe Eliza Smith 39 biilston
Willm Smith 14, broad lane
Alice Smith 9 bilston
Parthena Elsie Smith 5 coseley
Parthena Smith 68 wid, netherton
Joseph Smith 26 brother boiler minder, princess field
Emily Simmons 14 servant, new village

1911; 19 Swan Row, Coseley, Bilston, Staffs

William Smith 49 tube rhymer, loco dept netherton
Phoebe Eliza Smith 49 (married 26 years, 13 born, 4 living, 9 died) priestfield,
William Smith 24 blast furnace iron worker
Elsie Smith 15 at home
John Thomas Smith 4
Clarence Hassall 14 adopt daug, core maker, foundry, aston cross

alice smith 19 domestic bilston, cross through away from home
rest sedgley

is this the marriage ?


Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)

EDWARDS George James Wolverhampton 6b 532
Rigby Phoebe Eliza Wolverhampton 6b 532
Rigby Phoebe Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 532
Smith William Wolverhampton 6b 532
Swain Anne Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 532

there is this one

1851 windmill end, dudley

William Dunn 47 coal miner
Hannah Dunn 43 rowley
Hannah Dunn 6
Elizabeth Smith 41 widower, nailor, rowley
Raron Smith 19 nailor, rowley
William Smith 16 labourer
rest Dudley

here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ith-Family

poss

1841 coppice, sedgley

William Smith abt 1809 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Smith abt 1809 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Rhoda Smith abt 1835 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Ann Smith abt 1837 Sedgley, Staffordshire
William Smith abt 1839 Sedgley, Staffordshire


is raron in 1851 Rhoda ?


couple of Rhoda marriages

SMITH Rhoda JEAVONS Paul 1854 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/013/371
SMITH Rhoda PASFIELD Joseph 1859 Dudley Register Office West Midlands Dudley Register Office DRO/003/147

Parthena Careless connects to me. Unfortunately, I don't have any info going back on her husband William Smith.

I will put on BCC what I have on the descendants and census of William & Parthena later, have to go out now.