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I have done a look up for Mally
and I cannot get a handle on the parents of this Daniel Plant

he is the father of Hannah Plant who married Richard Deeley here.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =325127394

can anyone find out more

on the 1851 think he is with an Elizabeth wife
and one of the kids is a Rubin Plant
now we have 2 that may be bros
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =564793023

and

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =564793023

1881.

Daniel PLANT. Head. M. 69. Brockmore, Stafford, Retired Grocer.
Elizabeth PLANT. Wife. M. 65. Brockmore, Stafford,
David PLANT. Son. U. 25. Roundoak, Stafford, Butcher.
Idia LIGHTBOURNE. Grand Daur. U. 17. Brierley Hill, Stafford,
Alfred PEACOCK. Serv. U. 24. Pensnett, Stafford, General Servant.
Phoebe HINGLY. Serv. U. 19. Round Oak, Stafford, General Servant.

Williams Street.
Kingswinford, Stafford,

Hi, NL. This is the Plant line that goes back to Benjamin Plant born c. 1620, buried 1682 Halesowen, the so-called "geographic" Plant line which later has distinctive geographical first names like Dudley, Warwick and Richmond e.g. my great great grandfather was Warwick Plant 1816-1892 in this branch. (Other Black Country Plant lines may ultimately be connected to it - if we could get back far enough! - and sometimes are later linked by marriage.) This is what I have on Daniel's family:

Descendants of Thomas Plant


Generation No. 1

1. THOMAS7 PLANT (ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. 31 Aug 1783 in Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, and died 13 Aug 1857 in Brierley Hill, Staffordshire. He married HANNAH BEDDARD 26 Aug 1804 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, daughter of SAMUEL BEDDARD and HANNAH UNKNOWN. She was born 06 May 1781 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, and died 19 Apr 1862 in Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.


Children of THOMAS PLANT and HANNAH BEDDARD are:
i. JEREMIAH8 PLANT, b. 05 Sep 1808, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 15 Jun 1823, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
2. ii. DANIEL PLANT, b. 12 Mar 1812, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 20 Nov 1887, Lichfield, Staffordshire.
iii. DAVID PLANT, b. 16 Jun 1816, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 17 Jan 1820, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
iv. PHEBE PLANT, b. 14 Jun 1818, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 15 Jun 1821, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
v. PHILIP PLANT, b. 19 Dec 1819, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 03 Jun 1821, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
3. vi. REUBEN PLANT, b. 09 Dec 1813, Wordsley, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1901.
vii. GRACE PLANT, b. 20 Sep 1825, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 15 Jan 1826, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.


Generation No. 2

2. DANIEL8 PLANT (THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born 12 Mar 1812 in Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, and died 20 Nov 1887 in Lichfield, Staffordshire. He married ELIZABETH GILL 07 Jun 1836 in St Peter's church, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. She was born Abt. 1817 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire.

Children of DANIEL PLANT and ELIZABETH GILL are:
i. WILLIAM9 PLANT, b. 1837, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire; d. 26 Nov 1845, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
ii. THOMAS PLANT, b. Abt. 1844, Kingswinford, Staffordshire.
4. iii. REUBEN PLANT, b. Abt. 1851, Kingswinford, Staffordshire; d. Bef. 1901.
iv. DAVID PLANT, b. Abt. 1856, Kingswinford, Staffordshire.


3. REUBEN8 PLANT (THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born 09 Dec 1813 in Wordsley, Staffordshire, and died Aft. 1901. He married MARY PEARMAN COOKE 25 Aug 1853 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, daughter of GEORGE COOKE and SARAH WESTON. She was born Abt. 15 Feb 1830 in Wordsley, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, and died Aft. 1901.

Notes for REUBEN PLANT:
"Proprietor of Colliery" in 1851 census, living with parents, father "Proprietor of Colliery employing 50 Men".

Children of REUBEN PLANT and MARY COOKE are:
5. i. SARAH HANNAH PEARMAN9 PLANT, b. Abt. Mar 1854, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.
6. ii. ALEXANDER WHITMORE PLANT, b. Abt. Mar 1855, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
7. iii. GEORGE THOMAS SHERIDAN PLANT, b. Abt. Mar 1857, Kingswinford, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1911.
iv. JOHN H PLANT, b. Abt. 1861, Kingswinford, Staffordshire.

Notes for JOHN H PLANT:
In 1891 census "Colliery Implement Manufacturer" aged 30 living with parents in Buckpool, Kingswinford.


Generation No. 3

4. REUBEN9 PLANT (DANIEL8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. 1851 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, and died Bef. 1901. He married MARY ANN HILL 26 Oct 1868 in Tamworth, Staffordshire. She was born Abt. 1851 in The Lye, Worcestershire, and died Aft. 1901.

Children of REUBEN PLANT and MARY HILL are:
i. DANIEL HENRY10 PLANT, b. Abt. Jun 1873, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
ii. MINNIE PLANT, b. Abt. 1877, Round Oak, Staffordshire.
iii. WARWICK SHERIDAN PLANT, b. Abt. Sep 1882, Stourbridge, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911; m. IMELDA SARAH GRAHAM, Abt. Dec 1909, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire; b. Abt. Sep 1887, Durham.


5. SARAH HANNAH PEARMAN9 PLANT (REUBEN8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. Mar 1854 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. She married THOMAS ALFRED DENNISON Abt. Dec 1883 in City of London. He was born Abt. Mar 1857 in Aston, Birmingham, Warks.

Child of SARAH PLANT and THOMAS DENNISON is:
i. DORIS HELEN10 DENNISON, b. Abt. Mar 1887, Watford, Hertfordshire; m. ALFRED H CHAPMAN, Abt. Dec 1913, Watford, Hertfordshire.


6. ALEXANDER WHITMORE9 PLANT (REUBEN8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. Mar 1855 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, and died Aft. 1911. He married JESSIE BECKWITH Abt. Sep 1902 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire. She was born Abt. 1868 in Colchester, Essex, and died Aft. 1911.

Notes for ALEXANDER WHITMORE PLANT:
In 1911 census "L.S.A. Lond. Medical Practitioner", aged 56, living with wife and children in Wordsley, Stourbridge, one servant, Emma Pearson, 23, born Brockmoor.

Children of ALEXANDER PLANT and JESSIE BECKWITH are:
i. MARJORIE10 PLANT, b. Abt. Jun 1903, Stourbridge, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.
ii. MARY JESSAMINE PLANT, b. Abt. Sep 1904, Wordsley, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1911.
iii. ALEXANDER REUBEN PLANT, b. Abt. Mar 1907, Wordsley, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1911.


7. GEORGE THOMAS SHERIDAN9 PLANT (REUBEN8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. Mar 1857 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, and died Aft. 1911. He married FRANCES FLORA ELIZABETH STANLEY 1893 in Stourbridge Register Office, Worcs, daughter of EDWIN STANLEY and ELLEN UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. Mar 1860 in Stourbridge, Worcestershire.

Notes for GEORGE THOMAS SHERIDAN PLANT:
In 1911 census "Solicitor", aged 53, living with wife and son, 17, "Bank Clerk" at 187 Wolverhampton Street, Dudley, Worcestershire.

Child of GEORGE PLANT and FRANCES STANLEY is:
i. GEORGE STANLEY10 PLANT, b. Abt. Dec 1893, Dudley, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1914.

So it is the Robert Plant line
and he had son Rubin 1803 and Thomas 1783
then thomas is father of Daniel

is that rite

That looks right, NL. So that would link Mally's Plants with Dennis' and my Plants.

Reuben seems to have become a favourite family first name, which at least indicates we've got the right branch, the "geographic" one! The two Reubens are in succeeding generations of the same line: Richard Plant and Ann Turner has a son Reuben Plant bpt. 10 April 1803, died 19 Mar 1859, married Maria Westwood. Reuben Plant's older brother Thomas married Hannah Beddard, had a son and named him Reuben, b. 1813, died (I think) after 1901. So the the two Reubens were uncle and nephew. And Thomas 1783-1857 was Daniel's father 1812-1887. I didn't have Hannah Plant in my list, daughter of Daniel and wife of Richard Deeley. As you say, this seems to be the family:

Descendants of Hannah Plant

Generation No. 1

1. HANNAH9 PLANT (DANIEL8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. 1848 in Old Swinford. She married RICHARD DEELEY 16 Dec 1868 in Old Swinford, Worcestershire, son of GEORGE DEELEY. He was born Abt. 1832 in The Lye, Worcestershire.

Children of HANNAH PLANT and RICHARD DEELEY are:
i. ALICE ELIZABETH10 DEELEY, b. Abt. Dec 1869, Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
ii. PHOEBE LOUISA DEELEY, b. Abt. Dec 1870, Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
iii. GEORGE PLANT DEELEY, b. Abt. Mar 1873, Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
iv. RICHARD DANIEL DEELEY, b. Abt. Jun 1878, Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
v. WINIFRED HANNAH P DEELEY, b. Abt. Sep 1884, Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.
vi. CARLYLE REUBEN P DEELEY, b. Abt. Jun 1889, Quarry Bank, Staffordshire.

There's that Reuben again! I'm not sure whether it's Carlisle, as in the geographical place, or Carlyle as in Thomas Carlyle 1795-1881 the Victorian sage. My guess is that the mysterious "P" initial stands for Plant, by the way.

Something isn't right here.... if Daniel is the son of Thomas and that does look good with the name Rubin and David used for kids by Daniel
then IGI is incorrect
as they have him dying in 1821!

DANIEL PLANT Birth: 11 MAR 1812

Christening: 30 JUN 1816 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

Death: 13 MAR 1821

Parents:
Father: THOMAS PLANT Mother: HANNAH
Extracted birth

7 Jun 1836 St Peters W'ton
Daniel Plant b
Elizabeth Gill s
Banns
Wit -Mary Ann & John Biddulph

1851 Round Oak Kingswinford

Daniel Plant 38 h m butcher
Elizabeth Plant 34 wife
Agnes Plant 5 dau
Hannah Plant 2 dau
Ruben Plant 4 Mo son
Mary Ann Evans 16 serv
William Breckwell 17 serv
all b Kingswinford

JOSEPH PLANT -
Gender: Male Christening: 04 APR 1858 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England

Thomas Plant : 10 JUN 1844 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

these have parents Daniel and Elizabeth need them on the census with parents to confirm
.

I think we have Reuben b 1850 perhaps on site already
need to check married to a mary ann hill

and Dennis has him too...need marriage looked up but it is in Tamworth!
so I cant check it
Dennis do you have it?

Marriages Dec 1868
Hill Mary Ann Tamworth 6b 594
Maybury Arthur Tamworth 6b 594
Plant Reuben Tamworth 6b 594


Generation No. 3

4. REUBEN9 PLANT (DANIEL8, THOMAS7, ROBERT6, BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. 1851 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, and died Bef. 1901. He married MARY ANN HILL 26 Oct 1868 in Tamworth, Staffordshire. She was born Abt. 1851 in The Lye, Worcestershire, and died Aft. 1901.

Children of REUBEN PLANT and MARY HILL are:
i. DANIEL HENRY10 PLANT, b. Abt. Jun 1873, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire.
ii. MINNIE PLANT, b. Abt. 1877, Round Oak, Staffordshire.
iii. WARWICK SHERIDAN PLANT, b. Abt. Sep 1882, Stourbridge, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911; m. IMELDA SARAH GRAHAM, Abt. Dec 1909, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire; b. Abt. Sep 1887, Durham.

Northern Lass wrote:Something isn't right here.... if Daniel is the son of Thomas and that does look good with the name Rubin and David used for kids by Daniel
then IGI is incorrect
as they have him dying in 1821!

DANIEL PLANT Birth: 11 MAR 1812

Christening: 30 JUN 1816 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

Death: 13 MAR 1821

Parents:
Father: THOMAS PLANT Mother: HANNAH
Extracted birth

Ok Daniel is now joined ok with that now...but still stumbling on this one.....

I have been thinking about this and that transcribed entry re the burial so early on won't have the ages in at death so
it could be any Daniel plant dying!!

I will check out this entry for the bapt and that burial

As I do believe that the names of the children, the age and area all point to this Daniel being the son of Thomas and he in turn
son of robert

footnote...had info thru that verifies Daniel as the line
thank you Dennis

JOSEPH PLANT -
Gender: Male Christening: 04 APR 1858 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England

Thomas Plant : 10 JUN 1844 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

these have parents Daniel and Elizabeth need them on the census with parents to confirm

Any use
1861
77
New Street, Kingswinford
Daniel Plant 34 - Coalminer
Elizabeth Plant 33
Joseph Plant 3
James Plant 11 Mo
all b Kingswinford