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Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863--NL adding

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:17 pm
by Northern Lass
father is a Wm Barnsley chainmaker I am adding in marriage to Joseph attwood for Matilda here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=95370754


but think this may be Wm Barnsley
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=48744780


so can we find pls Matilda on census with father Wm as need dob for wm

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:29 pm
by gardener
Name: Matilda Barnsley
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1863
Baptism Date: 5 May 1878
Baptism Place: Reddall-Hill, Stafford, England
Father: William Barnsley
Mother: Caroline
FHL Film Number: 1470776

1871
Club Building, Rowley Regis
William Westwood 37 chainmaker Rowley Regis (all born same)
Caroline Westwood 32
William Westwood 12
Elizabeth Barnsley 12
Benjamin Westwood 8
Ann Barnsley 10
Matilda Barnsley 7 dau
Ellen Westwood 2 Months
RG10; Piece: 2994; Folio: 111; Page: 31

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:32 pm
by gardener
1881
64 Club Building
William Westwood 47 chainmaker
Caroline Westwood 41 Dudley (rest born Rowley Regis)
Benjamin Westwood 18 son
Ellen Westwood 10 dau
Sarah Westwood 8 dau
Joseph Westwood 6 son
Caroline Westwood 3 dau
Hannah Westwood 1 dau
Matilda Barnsley 17 dau in law
Samuel Westwood 26 lodger
RG11; Piece: 2861; Folio: 97; Page: 26

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:34 pm
by gardener
Marriage
Name: Caroline Barnsley Or Priest
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 18 Apr 1870
Marriage Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Spouse: William Westwood

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:36 pm
by gardener
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Dudley
Volume: 6c
Page: 49
Records on Page:
Name
William Barnsley
Thomas Homan
Caroline Priest
Eliza Thornett

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:41 pm
by gardener
1861
Peartree Street
William Barnsley 35 coal miner Shropshire
Caroline Barnsley 22 nail maker Rowley Regis (and others)
Elizabeth Barnsley 2
Ann Barnsley 2/12
RG 9; Piece: 2040; Folio: 125

Seems to fit apart from the occupation on the marriage cert. Perhaps Matilda put down her stepfather's ?

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:43 pm
by gardener
Name: William Barnsley
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 41
Registration district: Dudley
Volume: 6c
Page: 9

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:50 pm
by Northern Lass
need to look that marriage up thanks gardener :grin:

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:51 pm
by gardener
So it might not be the William Barnsley that you have.

1851
Pensnett
Richard Holmes 51
Emma Holmes 46
Henry Duddill 17
Harriet Holmes 15
Mark Baugh 26
Jonas Powell 42
William Barnsley 25 coal miner Dawley, Shropshire
HO107; Piece: 2036; Folio: 867; Page: 47

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:53 pm
by gardener
1856 marriage
BARNSLEY William PRIEST Caroline Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/002/139

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:57 pm
by gardener
An Ancestry tree has William's father as James Barnsley; marriage 25th August 1856.

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:53 pm
by rockyfowler
25 Aug 1856 St John The Evangelist Kates Hill
William BARNSLEY 25 B Miner Dudley Father James Barnsley Brick Layer
Caroline PRIEST 20 S Dudley Father Richard Priest Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Evans X / Mary Ann Priest X

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:32 pm
by gardener
Thanks RF

Then I think this is the Barnsley mob

1841
Wombridge
James Burnsley 40 brick layer
Ann Burnsley 40
Richard Burnsley 20
Samuel Burnsley 18
William Burnsley 16 collier
John Burnsley 14
Mary Burnsley 10
James Barnsley 8
Emma Barnsley 6
Henry Barnsley 2
HO107; Piece: 907; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Wombridge; County: Shropshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 23; Page: 38; Line: 19

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:54 pm
by mallosa
Here they are in 1851 but no William...

1851: Tump? Lane, Wombridge
James Bamsley 54 Head Bricklayer
Ann Bamsley 56 Wife
John Bamsley 23 Son U Bricklayer
Mary Ann Bamsley 21 Dau
Emma Bamsley 16 Dau
James Bamsley 18 Son Bricklayer
Henery Barnsley 13 Son Bricklayer
(all born Wombridge, Shropshire)

Re: Matilda Barnsley b abt 1863

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:08 pm
by mallosa
rockyfowler wrote:25 Aug 1856 St John The Evangelist Kates Hill
William BARNSLEY 25 B Miner Dudley Father James Barnsley Brick Layer
Caroline PRIEST 20 S Dudley Father Richard Priest Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Evans X / Mary Ann Priest X


is this relevant....

Marriage 1870
WESTWOOD William BARNSLEY Caroline Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/027/400

1871: Club Buildings, Rowley Regis
William Westwood 37 Head Chainmaker
Caroline Westwood 32 Wife Nailer Dudley, Worc
William Westwood 12 Son
Elizabeth Barnsley 12 Dau
Benjamin Westwood 8 Son
Ann Barnsley 10 Dau
Matilda Barnsley 7 Dau
Ellen Westwood 2 Months Dau
(others born Rowley Regis)