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Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:46 pm
by mallosa
Looked up by Rockyfowler (shame to waste it)

Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley

We have a Thomas Rollason born 1845 Oldbury with father William, could this be him - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

It states Blackheath on marriage but he could have lied couldn't he?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:09 pm
by rockyfowler
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Search Record Details
County Staffordshire
Place Dudley Staffs
Church St Thomas
RegisterNumber 490
MarriageDate 25 Jul 1842
GroomForename William
GroomSurname ROLLASON
GroomAge Of Full Age
GroomParish
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation Miner
GroomAbode Oakey Well Street,Dudley
BrideForename Hannah
BrideSurname INGRAM
BrideAge Of Full Age
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Porters Field,Dudley
GroomFatherForename (Blank)
GroomFatherSurname (Blank)
GroomFatherOccupation (Blank)
BrideFatherForename Joseph
BrideFatherSurname INGRAM
BrideFatherOccupation Miner (deceased)
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname INGRAM
WitnessTwoForename Esther
WitnessTwoSurname TURNER
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witnesses marked X
FileNumber 8623

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:07 pm
by mallosa
I don't think that William & Hannah are Thomas' parents do you RF?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:14 pm
by peterd
mallosa wrote:Looked up by Rockyfowler (shame to waste it)

Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley

We have a Thomas Rollason born 1845 Oldbury with father William, could this be him - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

It states Blackheath on marriage but he could have lied couldn't he?



he could of been living in blackheath at the time of the marriage, as i think if they were both of the parish its saved money ?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:48 pm
by mallosa
Looked at it again Pete and I think you are right :wink:

Connected up - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:41 pm
by mallosa
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


1891: Canal Side, Halesowen, Oldbury
(looks like ROLLINSON on the image)
Thomas Rollinson 46 Coal Miner
Elizabeth Rollinson 47
Mary Rollinson 22 Dau S Brickmaker
Hannon Rollinson 18 S Bolt Screw Factory Hand
Ellen Rollinson 13 Dau
Richard Rollinson 10 Son
Clara Rollinson 5 Dau
Bettrey Jones 2 Grd Dau
Sarah Jones 4 mths Grd Dau
(all born Oldbury)

1901: 1 Canal Side, Oldbury
Thomas Rollanson 56 Coalminer/Pikeman
Betsy Rollanson 57
Richard Rollanson 20 Son S Lab
Clara Rollanson 15 Dau

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:20 pm
by mallosa
Death Jun 1905
ROLLASON Elizabeth 61 W. Bromwich 6b 541

Name: Thomas Rollason
Age in 1911: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Union Workhouse, 88 Hallam Street, West Bromwich
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: West Bromwich
Registration District Number: 371
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 23-25
Piece: 17328

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:51 pm
by mallosa
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


Trying to establish why she is a SMITH (Spinster) but her father is JONES :?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:00 pm
by mallosa
1881: 1 Canal Side East, Oldbury
Ellen Carter 77 Mother Wid Oldbury, Worcestershire (living at same address but not transcribed as with this family)
Elizabeth Rollason 37 Wife Marr Brickmaker
Mary Rollason 13 Dau unm
Hannah Rollason 9 Dau
Ellen Rollason 3 Dau
Richard Rollason Son 6 mths
(all born Oldbury)

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:25 pm
by peterd
mallosa wrote:
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


Trying to establish why she is a SMITH (Spinster) but her father is JONES :?



mallosa wrote:1881: 1 Canal Side East, Oldbury
Ellen Carter 77 Mother Wid Oldbury, Worcestershire (living at same address but not transcribed as with this family)
Elizabeth Rollason 37 Wife Marr Brickmaker
Mary Rollason 13 Dau unm
Hannah Rollason 9 Dau
Ellen Rollason 3 Dau
Richard Rollason Son 6 mths
(all born Oldbury)



cart be the same one as elizabeth didnt become a rollason till 1884 ?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:30 pm
by peterd
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


1891: Canal Side, Halesowen, Oldbury
(looks like ROLLINSON on the image)
Thomas Rollinson 46 Coal Miner
Elizabeth Rollinson 47
Mary Rollinson 22 Dau S Brickmaker
Hannon Rollinson 18 S Bolt Screw Factory Hand
Ellen Rollinson 13 Dau
Richard Rollinson 10 Son
Clara Rollinson 5 Dau
Bettrey Jones 2 Grd Dau
Sarah Jones 4 mths Grd Dau
(all born Oldbury)


these cannot be the same as thomas is a batcholor how has he got a 22 year old daug in 1891 ?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:42 pm
by peterd
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


looks like them in 1881

1881; 27 Park Street, Oldbury

William Rollason 59 labourer
Thomas Rollason 37 coal miner
Frederick Rollason 23 Labourer
Sarah Ann S... (Cranage?) 28 daug married
Thomas S... 6
Elizabeth S... 3
James S... 5
Abraham S... 1
William S...


poss mar

ROLLINSON Sarah A CRANAGE William 1873 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/030/370

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Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:57 pm
by mallosa
peterd wrote:
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


1891: Canal Side, Halesowen, Oldbury
(looks like ROLLINSON on the image)
Thomas Rollinson 46 Coal Miner
Elizabeth Rollinson 47
Mary Rollinson 22 Dau S Brickmaker
Hannon Rollinson 18 S Bolt Screw Factory Hand
Ellen Rollinson 13 Dau
Richard Rollinson 10 Son
Clara Rollinson 5 Dau
Bettrey Jones 2 Grd Dau
Sarah Jones 4 mths Grd Dau
(all born Oldbury)


these cannot be the same as thomas is a batcholor how has he got a 22 year old daug in 1891 ?


I've deleted what I had added to BCC, so back to where it was now - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... son-Family

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:59 pm
by mallosa
I'll start another topic with that marriage, hoping someone else will sort it cos it's too confusing for me :?

Re: Thomas Rollason/Elizabeth Smith

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:01 am
by peterd
peterd wrote:
Marriage 25 Dec 1884 St Paul Blackheath
Thomas ROLLASON 38 B Miner Blackheath Father William Rollason Labourer
Elizabeth SMITH 40 S Blackheath Father Richard Jones Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Charles Careless / Clara Hadley


looks like them in 1881

1881; 27 Park Street, Oldbury

William Rollason 59 labourer
Thomas Rollason 37 coal miner
Frederick Rollason 23 Labourer
Sarah Ann S... (Cranage?) 28 daug married
Thomas S... 6
Elizabeth S... 3
James S... 5
Abraham S... 1
William S...


poss mar

ROLLINSON Sarah A CRANAGE William 1873 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/030/370

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think this is this thomas

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