I'm pretty certain that Joseph Williams is the son of John Williams b.1770 and the brother of George Lloyd Williams b.1797 however not yet conected on BCC.
1841 census has Joseph living in Northfield with his wife Hannah and in 1851 he's still living in Woodgate,Northfield but this time with Mary.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =575525476
I cannot find marriages for Joseph Williams - Hannah Unknown or Joseph Williams - Mary Unknown .
Joseph Williams b.1770
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Joseph Williams b.1770
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Rob you said "Joseph Williams is the son of John Williams b.1870"
Did you mean to put (as in your title) 1807?
Did you mean to put (as in your title) 1807?
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Mally i meant 1770.-
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Since Sarah was Hannah's daughter then this marriage is a possibility
Name: Joseph Williams
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 11 May 1846
Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Mary Dyke
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Father: John Williams [labourer]
Spouse's Father: Edward Dyke [sawyer]
Reference Number: DRO 25
Archive Roll: M52
Joseph is down as a labourer though; both living at Hill Street. Joseph signed his name.
Witnesses Hannah and Thomas Dafforn.
And this is one possibility for the other marriage
Name: Joseph Williams
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1834
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Hannah Guest
Spouse Gender: Female
Reference Number: DRO 25
Archive Roll: M49
I think the witnesses are Phebey Hughes and Esau Cutler... maybe this one http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ler-Family
Previous entry on the same day: William Grantum (?) married Elizabeth Guest; witnesses Mary Ann Guest and Thomas Jenkins. Not sure if they are related.
Matilda's baptism is soon afterwards
Name: Matilda Williams
Mother: Hannah
Father: Joseph Williams
Baptism: 22 Jun 1834 - Northfield Parish, Worcester, England
Name: Joseph Williams
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 11 May 1846
Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Mary Dyke
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Father: John Williams [labourer]
Spouse's Father: Edward Dyke [sawyer]
Reference Number: DRO 25
Archive Roll: M52
Joseph is down as a labourer though; both living at Hill Street. Joseph signed his name.
Witnesses Hannah and Thomas Dafforn.
And this is one possibility for the other marriage
Name: Joseph Williams
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1834
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Hannah Guest
Spouse Gender: Female
Reference Number: DRO 25
Archive Roll: M49
I think the witnesses are Phebey Hughes and Esau Cutler... maybe this one http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ler-Family
Previous entry on the same day: William Grantum (?) married Elizabeth Guest; witnesses Mary Ann Guest and Thomas Jenkins. Not sure if they are related.
Matilda's baptism is soon afterwards
Name: Matilda Williams
Mother: Hannah
Father: Joseph Williams
Baptism: 22 Jun 1834 - Northfield Parish, Worcester, England
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Deaths Jun 1845
WILLIAMS Hannah Kings Norton 18 306
That could be the first wife, then a hasty remarriage in May 1846.
WILLIAMS Hannah Kings Norton 18 306
That could be the first wife, then a hasty remarriage in May 1846.
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Thanks Gardener for your information. I'm convinced Joseph Williams is George Lloyd Williams's brother. So i'm going to add the info to my tree.
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Should i connect on BCC or is it not 100% certain yet?
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Rob wrote:Should i connect on BCC or is it not 100% certain yet?
you could connect and put a note in notes
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Thank you.I will connect tomorrow because it's late now and i'm listening to Elvis. Presley not Costello.
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Re: Joseph Williams b.1770
Connected to BCC. Thanks for help.Can be archived now.