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ARC TBC Jane Rickards

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:30 pm
by mel1949
Hi... I posted request a few years ago and have now substantiated, by certificate & censuses the following-
a Jane Rickards married Joseph Beard sometime between 1861-1871; she was born c 1847 in Worcester but Joseph and his wife Jane were living in Dudley at the 1871 census.
Joseph and Jane went on to have children Herbert Thomas Beard 1872 (my maternal grandfather); William Henry Beard 1875; Clarinda Beard 1876; Joseph Beard 1878.
I can substantiate all of the above and that the mother/wife's name was definitely Jane formerly Rickards, however I cannot find Jane & Joseph's marriage or Jane's birth.
I'm thinking that she maybe had been married prior to her marriage to Joseph Beard and that her Rickards is not her birth name.
Any suggestions a to how to find out??????
PLEASE HELP.... have spent loads on certificates & still drawing a blank
Mel

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:13 am
by Northern Lass
Hi so is it this one?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =652732493

if so would you like me to add your username in notes that you connect?

what info do you have re Jane Rickards ...do you have her on the birth certif of one of the children so that is how you
know the maiden name?...if so could you post the birth info and I can add that to Bcc.

So no marriage info....
seem to remember doing this lot awhile ago... :?

:grin:

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:22 pm
by corner_shop
1911 Census RG14 Piece 17638 Sch 321 Address 7 May Cottages Summer Street
Jane Beard Head 64 Widow 44yrsMar 8children 7living 1died Worcester
Joseph Beard Son 33 Sgl General Labourer Tin Works Worcester
Edith Beard Dau 25 Sgl Worcester
Alice Beard Dau 23 Sgl Restaurant Cook Worcester

From this data the marriage date (if there is one) is 1911-44 = 1867

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:59 am
by rockyfowler

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:37 pm
by mel1949
Hi Northern Lass

Yes the link to black country pages is the correct person & is part of my family tree.
I have birth certificates for 2 of the children both stating that the mother is 'Jane Beard formerly Rickards'.... 2 different lots of writing & clearly a 'k' not an 'h' as may have been thought.....
Apart from that I've drawn a blank and can only assume that maybe she had been married previously and Rickards isn't her maiden name

Mel

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:59 pm
by rockyfowler
Did she Sign Rickard? on birth cert :idea:

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:25 pm
by mel1949
Hi Rockyfowler
Sorry no sig on either cert 'mark of' only
Mel

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:41 am
by corner_shop
1881 Census Joseph down as Mar and head, Jane down as Unm and Wife

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:33 pm
by mel1949
Hi corner_shop
Now I'm really really confused!
What name do I look for re a birth for her; on the childrens birth certificates she's named as 'Jane Beard formerly Rickards'!!!!!
HELP! HELP!

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:43 am
by Northern Lass
mel1949 wrote:Hi Northern Lass

Yes the link to black country pages is the correct person & is part of my family tree.
I have birth certificates for 2 of the children both stating that the mother is 'Jane Beard formerly Rickards'.... 2 different lots of writing & clearly a 'k' not an 'h' as may have been thought.....
Apart from that I've drawn a blank and can only assume that maybe she had been married previously and Rickards isn't her maiden name

Mel


would you like me to slot in your username in notes on Bcc?
I can add a note on Janes notes we need marriage info if anyone has it :grin:

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:57 am
by Jimmy
It may be worth a try to look this up in the register, the H may be a K.


I know you are looking for Rickard, but an H could easily be mistaken for a K,

JANE RICHARDS.
Christening, 15 OCT 1848. Warndon, Worcester,
Parents:
THOMAS RICHARDS.
MARY.

Births Jun 1848
Richards Jane, Bromsgrove 18 227.
Jimmy.

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:17 pm
by mel1949
Hi Jimmy

I have birth certificates for 2 of the children and they are in different hand-writing clearly showing a 'K'; I also checked the writing on them to see what an 'h' looked like & it is definitely RicKards....

Further to that the possible marriage I had found is a dead end too.... money refunded from GRO as the information I gave them didn't tally :(

Throw into that that the original info on the 1881 Census shows Jane as WIFE but UNMARRIED ...... this has really confused me...... any ideas folks, please

Mel

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:47 pm
by peterd
it could be ricard as they didnt spell there names and accent will play a part in how the superintendent writes it down ?

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:54 pm
by mel1949
Ok... thanks peterd... I'll give that a go
Mel

Re: Jane Rickards

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:03 am
by rockyfowler
1871
Stourbridge Road, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Thomas Beard Head - Male 36 1835 - Worcestershire, England
Harriot Beard Wife - Female 35 1836 - Middlesex, England
Alice Beard Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Worcestershire, England
William Beard Son - Male 6 1865 - Worcestershire, England
Charlotte Beard Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Worcestershire, England
Thomas Sidaway Apprentice - Male 14 1857 - Worcestershire, England
Joseph Beard Visitor - Male 25 1846 - Worcestershire, England
Jane Beard Wife - Female 24 1847 - Worcester St Nicholas On Image
Richard Beard Brother - Male 9 1862 - Worcestershire, England
Richard Beard Lodger - Male 32 1839 - Staffordshire, England
Caroline Beard Wife - Female 44 1827 - Worcestershire, England
Selena Beard Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Worcestershire, England


1851
Dunn's Court, St Nicholas, Worcester, Worcestershire, England


Herbert Ricketts Head Married Male 50 1801 Brewer Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Martha Ricketts Wife Married Female 44 1807 - Ledbury, Herefordshire, England
Eliza Ricketts Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Servant City, Worcestershire, England
Sarah Ricketts Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 Scholar City, Worcestershire, England
Herbert Ricketts Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar City, Worcestershire, England
George Ricketts Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 Scholar City, Worcestershire, England
Jane Ricketts Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 - City, Worcestershire, England :idea:
Fanny Ricketts Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 - City, Worcestershire, England