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COOKSEY Elizabeth JOHNSON John Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/004/494 1877

I have posted marriage for look up but can anyone find John Johnson or the Harris family before 1871

1871 Census Orchard Street Tipton Dudley Staffs.
William Harris Head 49 Labourer born Gornal Staffs.
Ann Harris wife 46
John Johnson son 19 Furnaceman
Betsey Harris dau 16 Tin Worker
Catherine Harris dau 13 ( might be 10)
Samuel Harris son 9
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

1881 Census Cottage in Ed Coliery Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Harris Head 58 Labourer at Furnace born Gornal Staffs.
Ann Harris wife 56
Kate Harris dau 20
Samuel Harris son 18 Labourer at Furnace
John Harris son 7
Thomas Millward boarder 24 Labourer in Collery
Elizabeth Millward boarder 24
Mary A. Millward boarder
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

1891 Census California Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Harris Head 68 Labourer in Colliery born Gornal Staffs.
Ann Harris wife 66
John Johnson son.in.law 44
Elizabeth Johnson dau.in.law 38 born Bilston Staffs.
Keziah Johnson grd.dau 11 Scholar
Annice Johnson grd.dau 8 Scholar born Rowley Regis Staffs.
William Johnson grd.son 4 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Samuel Johnson grd.son 2 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

1901 Census 27 Hill Street Dudley Worcs.
John Johnson Head 50 Forge Labourer ( Puddler)
Elizabeth Johnson wife 48 born Bilston Staffs.
Keziah Johnson dau 20 Factory Sud Iron
Anne Johnson dau 18 Factory Sud Iron born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Samuel Johnson son 12 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

1911 Census 15 Boat Inn Boat Row Tipton Dudley Staffs..
John Johnson Head 59 License Holder born Tipton Staffs.
Elizabeth Johnson wife 48 born Bilston Staffs.
Married 33 years, 8 children, 3 living
Samuel John Johnson son 21 Labourer on Bank Coal Mine born Rowley Regis Staffs.

RF has looked up marriage :-

12 Dec 1877 St James Lower Gornal
John JOHNSON 27 B Labourer Dudley Port Father John Johnson (Dec) Labourer
Elizabeth COOKSEY 25 S Dudley Port Father Joseph Cooksey Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Harris X / Ann Harris X

Witnesses are parents William Harris and Ann Harris ( nee Johnson)

but still cannot find before 1871 or when parents married

1861?
Tipton
William Harris 30 labourer Gornal
Ann Harris 35
John Harris 9
Elizabeth Harris 5
Caroline Harris 2
rest born Tipton

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2045; Folio: 111; Page: 4; GSU roll: 542908.

Well done gardener
Caroline and Catherine were often changed back and forth
John Harris is probably John Johnson
and Elizabeth is Betsey

That is right family gardener

as 1861 Census is Coneygree Tipton Dudley Staffs.

and Catherine Harris went on to marry a William Pearson and is shown as born Coneygree Staffs. on 1891 Census

1891 Census 9 Wood Street Dudley Worcs.
William Pearson Head 62 Blacksmith
Elizabeth Pearson wife 57
William Pearson son 28 Blacksmith born Brownhill Staffs.
Catherine Pearson dau.in.law 33 born Conygree Staffs.
Emily Pearson dau 18 Tailoress
Alice A. Pearson dau 16 Scholar
Annie E. H. Pearson dau 6 Scholar
Lavinia Chilton grd.dau 15 Dressmaker Apprentice born Netherton Worcs.
Ada Chilton grd.dau 11 Scholar
Beatrice Chilton grd.dau 9 Scholar
Rest born Woodside Dudley Worcs.

All Added but still to find marriage of Ann Unknown to John Johnson
and then her marriage to William Harris

John Johnson and Ann Unknown marriage must have been between 1843 and 1855/1856 when Elizabeth Harris born

and William Harris must have married Ann Unknown ( widow of John Johnson) around 1852 to 1855

shall I move to brickwalls?

Please NL

These marriages that cant be found remind of the book by Michael Whitfield Foster -A Comedy of errors or The Marriage records of England an Wales 1837-1899 A really good read

Name: William Harris
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1854
Marriage Place: Coseley, Stafford, England
Spouse: Sarah Ann Johnson
FHL Film Number: 1470595
Reference ID: It 3 p 162 No 486

I can't see it on FreeBMD or WestMidlands but it could be worth looking at.

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