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James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:02 am
by Northern Lass
I am wondering if we have a connection on site between this James Cutler b 1827 Oldbury here....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and a possible son Joseph Cutler who puts down James cutler as father at marriage
no idea of marriage details
Joseph married Charlotte Roden

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

both born Oldbury

can we find em on Census together prior to 1874 marrriage

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:57 pm
by linell
Hi NL, I have a James Cutler born 1801 Oldbury, with unconfirmed parents: James's Parents could be Issac Cutler and 2nd Wife Leah Downing, Married by Licensce 15.9.1790 Rowley Regis. Witness Joseph Cox. James Baptised Cradley 27.10.1797.

James Married Mary Round Halesowen 1826. Children Joseph 1828, Mary Ann 1831, Elizabeth 1832, John 1834, Thomas 1838, Thomas 1839, Edward 1841, Felicia 1847.

James was a Carpenter, by 1851 the family are in Netherton. Maybe some connection, best wishes from Linell.

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:50 pm
by grangers14
I think Charlotte Roden is at home with her family in the 1871 census, her daughter down as Sarah A Roden, neice.
FreeBMD has a possible entry,
Births Jun 1870
Rhoden Sarah Ann Dudley 6c 19

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:31 pm
by grangers14
1901 Census
Coombs Road, Hill, Worcestershire
Charlotte Cutler, head, M, 51, nailor, Dudley
Sarah A Rhoden, daur, 28, blows for rivett maker, Rowley


1891 Census.
77, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
Joseph Cutler, 40, Carter, Oldbury
Charlotte, wife, 42, Dudley
Sarah Ann Rhoden, daur in law, 20, seamstress, Rowley

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:57 pm
by grangers14
1851 Census
Eel Street, Oldbury
James Cutler, head, 24, coal miner, Oldbury
Charlotte, wife, 18, Oldbury

1861 Cenus
Trinity Strett, Oldbury
James Cutler, head, 30, Coal Miner, Oldbury
Charlotte, wife, 28, Oldbury
Abraham, son, 8, Oldbury
Eliza, daur, 4, Langley
James, son, 2, Langley
Joseph, son, 3 weeks, Langley
Joseph Eggington, Lodger, 18, Oldbury

1871 Census
Whyley Street, Oldbury
James Cutler, head, 43, Miner, Oldbury
Eliza, wife, 41, Halesowen
Abraham, son, 19, Oldbury
James, son, 11,Lanfley
Joseph, son, 9, Langley

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:01 pm
by Northern Lass
now that is interesting

1891 Census.
77, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
Joseph Cutler, 40, Carter, Oldbury
Charlotte, wife, 42, Dudley
Sarah Ann Rhoden, daur in law, 20, seamstress, Rowley

so she aint Josephs!!
will disconnect

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:08 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok so not that James Cutler his Joseph is b 1862
ours is born 1847
:?

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:11 pm
by grangers14
I cant see a James and Joseph together that would fit :roll:
Jo :)

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:13 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:I cant see a James and Joseph together that would fit :roll:
Jo :)


hmmm that info on IGI might be incorrect will find marriage and add for look up
unless anyone can post it for Joseph and charlotte roden 1874
from bmsgh ta

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:21 pm
by Northern Lass
linell wrote:Hi NL, I have a James Cutler born 1801 Oldbury, with unconfirmed parents: James's Parents could be Issac Cutler and 2nd Wife Leah Downing, Married by Licensce 15.9.1790 Rowley Regis. Witness Joseph Cox. James Baptised Cradley 27.10.1797.

James Married Mary Round Halesowen 1826. Children Joseph 1828, Mary Ann 1831, Elizabeth 1832, John 1834, Thomas 1838, Thomas 1839, Edward 1841, Felicia 1847.

James was a Carpenter, by 1851 the family are in Netherton. Maybe some connection, best wishes from Linell.


now could this be James?

bit old?

could first Joseph die...they are having kids up to 1847

have we a bapt for our Joseph? b 1847 Oldbury

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:24 pm
by Northern Lass
Just adding all this...

marriage for this one charlotte must die
can we find a death
and then this marraige

1871 Census
Whyley Street, Oldbury
James Cutler, head, 43, Miner, Oldbury
Eliza, wife, 41, Halesowen
Abraham, son, 19, Oldbury
James, son, 11,Lanfley
Joseph, son, 9, Langley

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:35 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Death 1864.
CUTLER Charlotte, Oldbury, Sandwell Register Office. OLD/18/196.

West Midlands Death 1870.
CUTLER Charlotte. Oldbury, Sandwell Register Office. OLD/24/141.

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:36 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jimmy
I cant see a marriage

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:42 pm
by Jimmy
JAMES CUTTLER.
ELIZA MASTERS OR ALLEN.
Marriage, 04 JUN 1865, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JAMES CUTTLER.
ELIZA PERRY OR BULLAS.
Marriage, 21 OCT 1872, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Re: James Cutler b abt 1827

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:44 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:
grangers14 wrote:I cant see a James and Joseph together that would fit :roll:
Jo :)


hmmm that info on IGI might be incorrect will find marriage and add for look up
unless anyone can post it for Joseph and charlotte roden 1874
from bmsgh ta



CUTLER Joseph RHODEN Charlotte 1874 Cradley Heath, St Luke West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 20/1/285