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This Daniel Parsons
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Appears to have children mixed up with another Daniel Parsons of about same age and both Innkeepers

1861 Census 37 Oxford Street Bilston Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Parsons Head 34 (m) Innkeeper born Netherton Worcs.
Matthew Parsons son 12 Scholar born Hales Hill Worcs.
Mary Bennitt servant 27 Housekeeper

1861 Census Codsall Wood Tettenhall Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Parsons Head 36 Innkeeper born Netherton Worcs.
Jane H. Parsons wife 37 Governess born Much Wenlock Shrops.
Caroline Parsons dau 13 Scholar
Selina Parsons dau 9 Scholar
Rosanna Parsons dau 6 Scholar
Elizabeth Parsons dau 10 Scholar born Pensnett Worcs.
Plus 6 infants aged 3 to 6 with different surnames

Marriage 2/8/1858 Much Wenlock Salops.
Jane Hayward German Father John German
Daniel Parsons father Thomas Parsons

1871 Census Mardol Lane Much Wenlock Shrops.
Jane H. Parsons 60 Governess born Much Wenlock Shrops.
Rosannah Parsons dau 18 born Dudley Worcs.
Eve E. James asst. 17 Assistant born Middlesex London
Plus 21 Children Scholars all different surnames and places of birth
Note Jane H. Parsons not shown as married

Then we have 1871 Census :- 110 High Street Stockton Durham
Daniel Parsons Head 44 Innkeeper born Dudley Worcs.
Mary Parsons wife 39 born Tipton Staffs.
Mark Parsons son 14 Scholar born Tipton Staffs.
John Harrison lodger 21 Ironstone Worker born Sowerby Bridge Yorks.
George Burton lodger 20 Labourer born Barnaby Lincs.
Edward Jackson lodger 32 Carman born Newcastle Northumberland
Joseph Dent lodger 326 Groom born Carlisle Cumberland

Cannot tie down this marriage

1881 Census Hambletonian Inn 110 High Street Stockton Durham
Daniel Parsons Head 55 Licensed Victualler born Netherton Worcs.
Emma Parsons wife 56 born Staffordshire
John Himsworth grd.son 13 Scholar born Middlesboro Yorks.
Ann Himsworth grd.dau 12 Scholar born Middlesboro Yorks.
Agnes Donald visitor 43 No Occupation born Scotland
Joseph Holt boarder 44 No Occupation born Stockton Durham
Elizabeth Redfern servant 16 General Servant born Stockton Yorks.

Note Daniel Parsons married Emma Perry York Yorkshire 24/8/1882

1891 Census Red Lion Inn Ramsgate Stockton on tees Durham
James Etheridge Head 37 Licensed Victualler born Quarry Bank Staffs.
Anne Etheridge wife 37 born Dudley Worcs.
Daniel Parsons visitor 64 (wid) born Netheton Worcs.
Mary Dunn servant 42 born Dudley Worcs.

1901 Census Fairfield Stockton on Tees Durham
Daniel Parsons Head 75 Living on Own Means born Netherton Worcs.
Mary Parsons wife 54 born Holly Hall Worcs.

1911 Census Fairfield Stockton on Tees Durham
Daniel Parsons Head 88 Retired Publican born Netherton Worcs.
Mary Anne Parsons wife 64 born Round Oak Worcs.
Married 20 years, 5 children ,4 living
John Birch 62 son.in.law General Labourer born Kings Lynn Norfolk
Caroline Birch dau 63 born Kates Hill Staffs.
Married 19 years, 3 children , 3 living

Note Daniel Parsons married Mary Dunn York Yorkshire 1891

Note Caroline Parsons married Thomas Himsworth in 1867 Stockton Durham
and then John Birch in 1892 Stockton Durham

Children connect to being same Daniel Parsons but double 1861 Census does not tie up unless it is a duplicate
Also Jane Hayward Parsons (nee German) took Daniel's dau Rosanna with her in 1871 and he is married on 1871 Census

He appears to have married 5 times

Found Will which ties up to son Matthew

Daniel Parsons of Fairfield Stockton on Tees died 16/11/1911 Probate Durham to Matthew Parsons Licensed Victualler

1871
Stockton
Thomas Himsworth 26
Caroline Himsworth 23 born Dudley
John Himsworth 3 born Middlesboro
Ann T Himsworth 9 Months ditto
Abraham Walton 47
Selina S G Parsons 20
Class: RG10; Piece: 4897; Folio: 14; Page: 22; GSU roll: 848008.

1871
Dalton, Lancs
Matthew Parsons 23 Dudley Port, Worcs
Martha Parsons 20 ditto
Matthew J Parsons 11 Months Barrow in Furnace
Class: RG10; Piece: 4245; Folio: 100; Page: 3; GSU roll: 848080.

1881
Barrow
Matthew Parsons 32
Martha Parsons 30
Matthew J. Parsons 11
Ann Parsons 8
Florence Parsons 4
Leonard Parsons
Thomas Dibble 21
Maggie Wainman 20
Elizabeth Thompson 24
Jane Griffith 15
Class: RG11; Piece: 4289; Folio: 42; Page: 3; GSU roll: 1342024

Thanks Gardener,
I have all Matthew Parsons Census details but not those and I have brother Mark Homer Parsons Census details

But that Himsworth Census detail has sister Selina Parsons
She went on to marry a Michael Heslop in Holy Trinity Stockton on 28/8/1871

Reference two 1861 Census records for Daniel Parsons I have seen double records before but not in same area

I was following a train of thought which slipped away

Do you have the 1851 census?

No I cannot find 1851 Census

Found this :-

1861 Census Vicar Street Boiler Makers Arms Dudley Worcs.
Caroline Homer wife (m) 26 Publicans Wife
Benjamin T. Homer 4mths.
Mark H. Parsons nephew 5 born Tipton Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.

Marriage St. Giles RR 22/5/1854
Caroline Turner 22 father Benjamin Turner
Thomas Homer 22 father Owenden Homer

Daniel Parsons ist wife was Ann Turner

Also found Rosannah Parsons born Dudley Worcs. married Thomas Meredith born 1847 Much Wenlock
Marriage 1/2/1872 Much Wenlock
Rosannah Parsons 20 father Daniel Parsons
Thomas Meredith 23 father Thomas Meredith

They then also moved to Stockton on Tees

1911 Census 8 Cottage Row Stockton on Tees Durham
Michael Heslop Head 64 (wid) Wharf Labourer born Stockton Durham
3 children, 0 living
Rosanna Merdedith sister in law 59 (wid) born Dudley Worcs.
12 children,4 living

Michael Heslop married sister of Rosannan i.e. Selina Sarah Parsons

OK. So from FreeReg, all at St Thomas Dudley

Caroline Parsons born 28.4.1847 bapt 22.8.1847, parents Ann and Daniel (Dudley, furnaceman)
Matthew Parsons born 23.1.1849 bapt 5.8.1849, parents Ann and Daniel (Dudley port, furnace man)
Mark Homer Parsons born 27.11.1855 bapt 30.8.1857, parents Ann and Daniel (Vicar Street, stock taker)

that fits with

1861 Census 37 Oxford Street Bilston Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Parsons Head 34 (m) Innkeeper born Netherton Worcs.
Matthew Parsons son 12 Scholar born Hales Hill Worcs.
Mary Bennitt servant 27 Housekeeper

1861 Census Codsall Wood Tettenhall Wolverhampton Staffs.
Daniel Parsons Head 36 Innkeeper born Netherton Worcs.
Jane H. Parsons wife 37 Governess born Much Wenlock Shrops.
Caroline Parsons dau 13 Scholar
Selina Parsons dau 9 Scholar
Rosanna Parsons dau 6 Scholar
Elizabeth Parsons dau 10 Scholar born Pensnett Worcs. [it doesn't say dau for Elizabeth, just "scholar"]
Plus 6 infants aged 3 to 6 with different surnames

and
1861 Census Vicar Street Boiler Makers Arms Dudley Worcs.
Caroline Homer wife (m) 26 Publicans Wife
Benjamin T. Homer 4mths.
Mark H. Parsons nephew 5 born Tipton Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.

So Caroline and Mark should be on the 1851, and their mother Ann and father Daniel. Even if they are not together. How annoying is this?

I have added a lot to bcc with notes
The children on both 1861 Census Records obviously are related as they tie up on later Census records
so where are they in 1851 ?
The only reasons can think of for Daniel being on two records is:-
a) He had a business address as well as a family address
b) Jane H. German Governess appears to have a lot of children before and after marriage as Pupils/Scholars
perhaps they were orphans ?

still working on this mumbles?

Finished NL
as cannot find 1851 Census
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