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*ARC TBC* Downes 1797-Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:24 pm
by mjay
Hannah Downes parents
John Downes 13-7- 1797
Mary Ann Davies 1800 - 1840
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... wns-Family

Trying to find further info from this post, where we have 1841 & 1851 census thanx to Gardner
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17934&p=184178&hilit=John+Downes#p184178

Help please to confirm

John's father William Downes 1776 think I've found him Born Ipswich
Marriage : ? 17-1 -1795 St Mary Shrewsbury Shropshire ?
John's mother Mary Pritchett

I can't find 1861 census

But have I found 1871 ?
John 73 inmate Cochshutt Shropshire ?


Thanx x

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:27 pm
by gardener
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1861
Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Piece: 2079
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Watkins 62
Frederick Watkins 27
John Downs 63 boarder widr malster Wenlock Salop

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2079; Folio: 18; Page: 30; GSU roll: 542914.

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:30 pm
by gardener
1871
Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 3034
Folio: 105
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Palmer 52
John Bell Downes 73 lodger widr glover Much Wenlock, Salop


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3034; Folio: 105; Page: 8; GSU roll: 838837.

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:35 pm
by gardener
Name: John Bill Downes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Dudley
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 15

Is that the right person?

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:01 pm
by mjay
It's certainly all fits doesn't it gardener
Thanks so much

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:03 pm
by gardener
IGI gives

William Downes
christening: 1 January 1831 LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Anne

Hannah Downes
christening: 8 September 1828 LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Anne

Harriet Downes
christening: 25 September 1826 LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Anne

Edwin Downes
birth: 15 May 1825
christening: 22 May 1825 CORVE AND OLD STREET INDEPENDENT CHAPEL-NC,LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Ann Davies

Marianne Downes
christening: 5 August 1821 LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Ann

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:43 pm
by mjay
Great thanks I was just checking DOB's for John & Mary's children

Marianne Downes
christening: 5 August 1821 LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Ann

I've found a marriage to Henry Nicholls DOB 29/7/1920 his parents I believe are William Nicholls & Elizabeth Webb
Married 1844 Kidderminster (18 485)

From a fam tree on ancestry looks like they emigrated to Australia where Marian DOD 1903 (82)
Henry Nicholls DOD Australia 1889 (60)

Thanx

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:52 pm
by gardener
I don't know about John Bill's father though.
The IGI has

Francis Downs
christening: 1 June 1783 MUCH WENLOCK,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Wm. Downs
mother: Mary

Richard Downs
christening: 10 September 1786 MUCH WENLOCK,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: William Downs
mother: Mary

John Bill Downes
christening: 13 June 1797 MUCH WENLOCK,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: William Downes
mother: Mary

Marianne Downes
christening: 9 January 1799 MUCH WENLOCK,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
death: 24 August 1800
father: William Downes
mother: Mary

William Downes
christening: 6 July 1800 MUCH WENLOCK,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
death: 8 September 1800
father: William Downes
mother: Mary

but the first two might belong to a different couple? That 1841 census gave William aged 65 so he could have been born 1772-1776 and there are a few options baptised in Shropshire. Ipswich seems a bit far off.

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:58 pm
by mjay
Ipswich don't know where I had that from oops think I must have spent too much time on ancestry lol x

Thanks again x

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:59 pm
by mjay
Edwin Downes
birth: 15 May 1825
christening: 22 May 1825 CORVE AND OLD STREET INDEPENDENT CHAPEL-NC,LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Ann Davies


I have his DOD 1869 (44)
Don't believe he married

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:05 pm
by mjay
Harriet Downes
christening: 25 September 1826 LUDLOW,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Bill Downes
mother: Mary Anne

I'm still going through this

Hannah we have on bcc

I'm still going through these too.
I have a Thomas Richard COLLINS Downes @1830
William Downes @1831
Martha Downes @1838

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:51 am
by Northern Lass
not gone thru this thread

does any of it need adding to Bcc?

are there any connections to join up on Bcc?

if so I will sticky and see if JO is around or I will sort when I get a min :grin:

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:04 pm
by mjay
Thanks Jan

Bare with me while I try and break this post down x
And yes to be added to BCC please

mjay wrote:Hannah Downes parents are
John Downes 13-7- 1797
Mary Ann Davies 1800 - 1840
Connects here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... wns-Family

Thanx x

Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:05 pm
by mjay
gardener wrote:Name: John Bill Downes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Dudley
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 15


Re: John Downes 1797

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:09 pm
by mjay
Name: John Bill Downes
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1797
Baptism Place: Much Wenlock,Shropshire,England
Father: William Downes
Mother: Mary
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