ARC TBC - Elizabeth Burgess - when did she die?
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:06 pm
Can anyone help with a death for Elizabeth?
Here's what I've got so far:
Elizabeth was born on the 28th Oct 1813, baptised in Birmingham, daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Thompson.
She married John Burgess (occupation - carpenter) on the 11 Dec 1837 at the parish church (St Bartholemew's) in Edgbaston. At the time of her marriage she was living at Woodcock Street (presumably Edgbaston too?).
The couples's first child, Elizabeth Burgess (known as Betsy), was born on the 26 Nov 1839 in Newtown Row, Birmingham (this is possibly at John's parents - they lived here for many years).
William followed in 1844, and Emma in 1846 (she sadly died at ten weeks old - mother Elizabeth was the informant on Death Cert).
The census has the family in Harding Street, Birmingham in 1841.
By 1851 John and William are to be found in New John Street, where they had lived at least since 1846, as recorded on Emma's death cert. To me the census image looks to state that John is married rather than widowed. I have not located Elizabeth in 1851.
Daughter Betsy is with her grandmother Sarah Burgess in New Town Row.
I haven't found John in 1861, but on the 24th May 1868 he married Hannah Hurburt (Blackman) in All Saint's Church, Birmingham. Both parties are widowed.
The couple then move to Great Barr (there is a story that John was a gamekeeper, for a big house - this may be him as wheelwright rather than gamekeeper at Barr Lodge, although dob is out on 1871 Census).
In 1881 they are still in Great Barr, address ? Questlett Lane. Wife is down as Anna rather than Hannah, but the ages are a bit better!
In 1891 they have moved to Herbert Street, West Bromwich (daughter Betsy has been living in West Brom since the 1870's)- no occupation for John, but Hannah is down as Parish Relief, as is the entry before John.
John died on the 18th May 1895 at the Union Workhouse - daughter Betsy was in attendance (she was a nurse and midwife). Occupation is recorded as Wood Sawyer of West Bromwich.
What I really need to find out is what happened to Elizabeth? Was she alive in 1851, and if so where was she? And when did she die? I have a working guess of somewhere between 1851 and 1868, although it may have been earlier.
Here's what I've got so far:
Elizabeth was born on the 28th Oct 1813, baptised in Birmingham, daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Thompson.
She married John Burgess (occupation - carpenter) on the 11 Dec 1837 at the parish church (St Bartholemew's) in Edgbaston. At the time of her marriage she was living at Woodcock Street (presumably Edgbaston too?).
The couples's first child, Elizabeth Burgess (known as Betsy), was born on the 26 Nov 1839 in Newtown Row, Birmingham (this is possibly at John's parents - they lived here for many years).
William followed in 1844, and Emma in 1846 (she sadly died at ten weeks old - mother Elizabeth was the informant on Death Cert).
The census has the family in Harding Street, Birmingham in 1841.
By 1851 John and William are to be found in New John Street, where they had lived at least since 1846, as recorded on Emma's death cert. To me the census image looks to state that John is married rather than widowed. I have not located Elizabeth in 1851.
Daughter Betsy is with her grandmother Sarah Burgess in New Town Row.
I haven't found John in 1861, but on the 24th May 1868 he married Hannah Hurburt (Blackman) in All Saint's Church, Birmingham. Both parties are widowed.
The couple then move to Great Barr (there is a story that John was a gamekeeper, for a big house - this may be him as wheelwright rather than gamekeeper at Barr Lodge, although dob is out on 1871 Census).
In 1881 they are still in Great Barr, address ? Questlett Lane. Wife is down as Anna rather than Hannah, but the ages are a bit better!
In 1891 they have moved to Herbert Street, West Bromwich (daughter Betsy has been living in West Brom since the 1870's)- no occupation for John, but Hannah is down as Parish Relief, as is the entry before John.
John died on the 18th May 1895 at the Union Workhouse - daughter Betsy was in attendance (she was a nurse and midwife). Occupation is recorded as Wood Sawyer of West Bromwich.
What I really need to find out is what happened to Elizabeth? Was she alive in 1851, and if so where was she? And when did she die? I have a working guess of somewhere between 1851 and 1868, although it may have been earlier.