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A Grandfather of mine was William Hume (sometimes written as Hulme). He was born about 1843 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England to William Hume (abt 1818 Edinburgh, Midlothian) and Emily Evans (abt 1817 England).

In the 1851 Census he can be found at 57 Princes Street, Glasgow living with his parents and siblings Emily Hume (abt 1841), Robert Hume (abt 1844) and Thomas Hume (abt 1849). His Father is working as a Tailor (jour).

In the 1861 Census William, along with his brothers Robert and Thomas, is in the household of John and Eliza Seedhouse which is described as House of Jockey in Summerhill, Tipton. The Hume brothers are described as Nephews to Mr and Mrs Seedhouse. But who are the Seedhouse family and how are they related if at all?

Here they are....it says William, Robert and Thomas are nephews to head of household - John Seedhouse

1861: Horse and Jockey, Summerhill, Tipton, Staffs
John Seedhouse 54 Head Coalminer b. Sedgely, Staffs
Eliza Seedhouse 48 Wife b. Sedgely, Staffs
John Seedhouse 18 Son b.Tipton, Staffs
Louisa Seedhouse 16 Dau b. Sedgely, Staffs
James Seedhouse 9 Son b.Tipton, Staffs
Emeler Seedhouse 6 Dau b.Tipton, Staffs
Enoch Seedhouse 2 Son b.Tipton, Staffs
William Hume 18 Nephew Coalminer b.Dudley, Worcester
Robert Hume 16 Nephew b.Dudley, Worcester
Thomas Hume 14 Nephew b.Dudley, Worcester
Elizabeth Dutson 23 Serv b.Tipton, Staffs
Robert Jones 35 Lodger b.Wales
Samuel Hadock 22 Boarder b.Tipton, Staffs

Could do with finding a marriage for John and Eliza...

Hi Bostin fittle as this is Black Country query moved to that section

I can't Find any mariages for the surname Seedhouse

According to UKBMD Search these are all the Seedhouse mariages 1837-1861:

SEEDHOUSE Ann BRADLEY George 1857 Salford St Simon Lancashire Salford C27/2/213
SEEDHOUSE Charlotte DIGGETT Joseph 1857 Coseley, Christ Church West Midlands Dudley Register Office 208/002/329
SEEDHOUSE Edward LENN Sarah 1856 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/015/322
SEEDHOUSE Hannah JACKSON Charles 1851 Stonnal, St Peter Staffordshire Lichfield 23PL/1/30
SEEDHOUSE Henry LEE Sarah 1841 Eccles Parish St Mary's Lancashire Salford C1/3/487
SEEDHOUSE Maria HOROBIN Charles 1850 Stonnal, St Peter Staffordshire Lichfield 23PL/1/21
SEEDHOUSE Mary JACKSON William 1854 Norton Canes, St James Staffordshire Cannock Chase C1NCJ/1/88
SEEDHOUSE Mary A ELLIS Joseph 1850 Sedgley, All Saints West Midlands Dudley Register Office 216/006/254
SEEDHOUSE Mary A HORTON John 1844 Shenstone, St John the Baptist Staffordshire Lichfield 22PL/1/69
SEEDHOUSE Sarah RAWSON Joseph 1852 Cheadle, St Mary Cheshire Stockport ST65/7/389
SEEDHOUSE Susannah EVANS Isaac 1848 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/001/200
SEEDHOUSE Thomas SHEERWOOD Sarah 1846 Sedgley, All Saints West Midlands Dudley Register Office 216/004/179
SEEDHOUSE William ARMS Sarah 1837 Shenstone, St John the Baptist Staffordshire Lichfield 22PL/1/5
SEEDHOUSE William PATE Sarah 1858 Tipton, St John West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 36/1/18
SEEDHOUSE Zachariah ROBINSON Elizabeth 1849 Sedgley, All Saints West Midlands Dudley Register Office 216/005/484
SEEDHOUSE Henry GRIFFIN Catherine 1860 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/003/13
SEEDHOUSE John PASCOE Sarah 1859 Sedgley, All Saints West Midlands Dudley Register Office 216/010/371
SEEDHOUSE John RICHARDS Ann 1860 Wednesbury, St John West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 34/1/306
SEEDHOUSE Rosanna SAUNDERS John 1859 Coseley, Christ Church West Midlands Dudley Register Office 208/002/438

The only one I can see is, From,

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchRes ... dID=738633

St Peters, Wolverhampton.
MarriageDate 29 May 1838.
John. SEEDHOUSE,
Age, 30. OTP.
Widower,
Occupation. Miner.
Father Thomas Seedhouse. Miner.
Abode Wolverhampton.

Eliza EVANS,
Age 21.
Spinster.
Occupation Servant.
Father Benjamin Evans, Blacksmith.

Witness 1, Mary Ann BIDDULPH.
Witness 1,John BIDDULPH.
Banns; Recorded by J BOYLE.

We are looking for a marriage around 1831, I think...
In 1841 they are living in Deepfields, Sedgley with oldest dau Mary aged 10

Jimmy wrote:The only one I can see is, From,

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchRes ... dID=738633

St Peters, Wolverhampton.
MarriageDate 29 May 1838.
John. SEEDHOUSE,
Age, 30. OTP.
Widower,
Occupation. Miner.
Father Thomas Seedhouse. Miner.
Abode Wolverhampton.

Eliza EVANS,
Age 21.
Spinster.
Occupation Servant.
Father Benjamin Evans, Blacksmith.

Witness 1, Mary Ann BIDDULPH.
Witness 1,John BIDDULPH.
Banns; Recorded by J BOYLE.

That looks good Jimmy!

Perhaps
Emily Evans b abt 1817 who married William Hume

and

Eliza Evans born abt 1817 who married John Seedhouse

are sisters?

Does anyone know who John Biddulph is? I looked at quite a few marriage records at St Peters in Wolverhampton and he appears as a witness on a lot of the records

Dont know who he is or was but I think he must be something to do with the church
cos as you say is on loads of marriages that I view.

For interest
1851
152
Horse Fain?, Wolverhampton
John Biddulph 37 - Unmarried - Clerk at St Peters church
Emily Biddulph 20 - Sister - Unmarried
Sarah Parker 25 - Lodger - Dressmaker - b Penkridge
Albertain Parker 3 - Lodger - b Cheshire
others b Wolverhampton

Okay I'm just getting more confused. I've been to the Stafford and Dudley Achives to get copies of the marriage registries for both the Seedhouse and Hume marriages.

29th May 1838 St Peters Chuch, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

John Seedhouse 30 Widower Miner Wolverhampton Thomas Seedhouse Miner
Eliza Evans 21 Spinster Servant Wolverhampton Benjamin Evans Blacksmith

3rd February 1840 St Thomas Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England

William Hume Of full age Bachelor Tailor Campbell Street, Dudley William Hume (deceased) Cordwainor
Emily Evans Of full age Spinster Campbell Street, Dudley Linnard Evans (deceased) Blacksmith

Both registers match what I have in the previously mentioned Censuses but as you can see Emily and Eliza have a different name for their father. So why are Emily's sons living with Eliza as her nephews?

Think we might brick wall this one BF...

so moving it there

poss cousins benjamin and linnard ( Leonard)brothers ?