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peterd posted tombstone of Charles and Ann

"think this poss charles and wife

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and poss mar

HODGKINS Charles JONES Ann 1862 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/003/14

Looked up Marriage :-

Halesowen St. John 17/2/1862
Charles Hodgkins 19 bach. Nailor of Boro father John Hodgkins Nailer
Ann Jones sp. 18 of Boro father Joseph Jones Nailer

All well and good until 1871 Census

1871 Census Church Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Knight Head 70 born Warks.
Elizabeth Knight wife 67
Ann Hodgkins dau 27 Nailer
Charles Hodgkins son.in.law 28 Nailor
William Mackarel lodger 26 Gun Smith
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

1881 Census Hagley Road Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Charles Hodgkins Head 38 Nail Factor & Grocer
Ann Hodgkins wife 36
Earnest Hodgkins son 3
Elizabeth Knight lodger 68 (wid) Wifes Mother
All born Halesowen Worcs.

Then 1861 Census Church Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Knight Head 59 Labourer on The Road born Warks.
Elizabeth Knight wife 56 Nailor
Am Jones dau 17 Nailor
William H. Knight son 13 Nailor
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

1851 Census Church Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Knight Head 49 Labourer born Baddesley Warks.
Elizabeth Knight wife 46 born Baddesley Warks.
Thomas Knight son 21 Nailor
John Knight son 12 Nailor
Harriett Knight dau 11 Scholar born Broom Worcs.
William Knight son 3
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.

Ann Jones possibly must be adopted ?

unless both married before ?


poss ?


Ann Jones
Christening Date: 31 Dec 1843 HALESOWEN,WORCESTER,

Father's Name: Joseph Jones
Mother's Name: Elizabeth


Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01376-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 886635, 886636, 886638

1841 Census Ackman Gate Chaddesley Corbett Kidderminster Worcs.
William Knight 37 Ag. Labourer
Elizabeth Knight 35
Jane Knight 14
Thomas Knight 11
Mary Knight 8
Hannah Knight 5
John Knight 3 born in County
Harriott Knight 11 mths. born in County
Rest not born in County

Only way that would work is if there are two Elizabeths as Ann Jones is born 1843 and no sign of her in 1851

poss ?

KNIGHT Elizabeth 1847 - Kingswinford West Midlands Dudley Register Office KIN/010/479


but i cannot see a knight / jones marriage ?

I think that 1841 Census is correct as Harriott on 1851 Census is shown as born Broome Worcs. which is near Chaddesley Corbett
perhaps the Baddesley Warks. on later Census records was wrongly noted and was Chaddesley not Baddesley

Knight family is already on bcc added by Jan and San

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =912550459

However they have ignored Ann Jones

I think because she is noted as daughter of William Knight and Elizabeth on 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census she must have been adopted

Can I put her as adopted daughter of William and Elizabeth and connect up to Charles Hodgkins but with a note regarding her birth father on marriage record and baptism ?

think this might be the marriage then


Name William Knight
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Parsons

Event Date 24 Oct 1826 Baddesley Clinton,Warwick,

Indexing Project (Batch) Number M02089-1
System Origin England-ODM
GS Film number 229122, 501825

mumbles wrote:Knight family is already on bcc added by Jan and San

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =912550459

However they have ignored Ann Jones

I think because she is noted as daughter of William Knight and Elizabeth on 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census she must have been adopted

Can I put her as adopted daughter of William and Elizabeth and connect up to Charles Hodgkins but with a note regarding her birth father on marriage record and baptism ?

Not following this but do what you think mumbles

I think Ann Jones should be put on Knight family as she is clearly shown as their daughter on 3 Census records but this is also clearly contradicted by her marriage record which shows her father as Joseph Jones ( this could be put on as a note ) . William and Elizabeth Knight appear to have been married well before Ann Jones born so it is not fact that Elizabeth was married before to Joseph Jones nor was she born out of wedlock as Elizabeth maiden name was Parsons.

Seems a bit questionable to me

Could Elizabeth on 1861 census be another Elizabeth? Previous census says she was born Warwick then later says Halesowen

1841 Islington, Halesowen
Joseph Jones, 35, Nailer
Elizabeth, 35,
Mary Ann, 13,
Joseph, 10,
John, 8,
Edward, 5
All born in County

1851 Islington, Halesowen
Joseph Jones, head, 46? Nail Maker
Elizabeth, wife, 47, Nail Maker, ?
Joseph, son, 21, Nail Maker
Edward, son, 15, Nail Maker
Elizabeth, daur, 9,
Anne, daur, 7,
All others born Halesowen

I think you have solved graingers14

?? Possible death

West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1857
KNIGHT Elizabeth Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/008/373

The witness of Anns marriage, Mary Byng I think is Anns sister here on BCC
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... nes-Family

?? Marriage
16th December 1825 St John the Baptist
Joseph Jones otp bachelor and
Elizabeth Sharrett otp spinster
Both made x
Witnesses
Thomas Sharrett x and Hannah Fisher x

Thanks graingers14
I will sort out and add later as working on other lines at moment

All added & Thanks to Grangers14 & peterd