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Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 9:32 am
by Northern Lass
Can we find more and try and link him into Bcc pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =487359982RR memorial site
Samuel HILL missing believed killed 21st Aug 1916 The latter days of the Somme, France Aged 24
RR booklet
Hill Samuel 2061 Cpl 1/7th Worcester 22nd August 1916
9 Perrys Lake
Courtesy of Richard Warby
HILL Samuel
2061 Corporal: 1/7th Battalion, Worcestershire Regiment.
Missing believed killed: 21st August 1916 (possibly 22nd)
Born: Oldbury. Enlisted: Oldbury. Residence: 9, Perry’s Lake, Rowley Regis.
Memorial: Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France. Pier & Face 5A & 6C.
Also remembered: Civic Roll of Honour - Rowley Ward; Doulton Road School 1914-18 Memorial.
anything on that address 9 Perrys lake in 1911 pls
or on CWGC site
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 11:48 am
by Jimmy
The only one I can see born in Oldbury.
1911. 2 Back Of, 33 Eel St, Oldbury.
George Hill 41. Labourer. Smethwick.
Elizabeth Hill 43.
Samuel Hill 20. Labourer, out of work.
William Hill 18.
Lucy Hill 12.
Beatrice Hill 10.
James Hill 14.
Married 22 years. 7 children 2 died.
Others born Oldbury.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1889.
HILL George. CUTLER Elizabeth. Blackheath, St Paul. Dudley Register Office. 012/002/380.
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 11:58 am
by Jimmy
1891. 15 Eel St, Oldbury.
Isabella Curler 46.
Elizabeth Curler 32. Dau. Brickmaker.
George Hill 21. Son in law.
William Curler 16. Son. Labourer in brickworks.
Samuel Hill 8/12. Grandson.
Charlotte Morris 85. Mother.
Lucy Blakemore 59. Visitor.
All born Oldbury.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864.
CUTLER William. MORRIS Isabella. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/3/280.
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:02 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864.
CUTLER William. MORRIS Isabella. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/3/280.
William Cutler.
Birth Date: 1839.
Age: 25.
Spouse's Name: Isabella Morris.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1843.
Spouse's Age: 21.
Event Date: 15 May 1864.
Event Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name: John Cutler.
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Morris.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02504-9.
System Origin: England-ODM.
GS Film number: 1849594.
Reference ID:
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:18 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jimmy
so that could be him
what about that address 9 perrys lake
or maybe was he married and that is his addy?
anything on cwgc?
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:28 pm
by Jimmy
only this.
HILL, SAMUEL
Rank:
Corporal
Service No:
2061
Date of Death:
21/08/1916
Regiment/Service:
Worcestershire Regiment
1st/7th Bn.
Panel Reference
Pier and Face 5 A and 6 C.
Memorial
THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:52 pm
by gardener
Age is a bit off
1911
16 Perry's Lake, Springfield, Dudley
Mary Hill 57
James Hill 24
Rose Hannah Hill 19
Samuel Hill 15 born Rowley Regis
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:54 pm
by gardener
1901
Same address
Thomas Hill 49
Mary Hill 48
Joseph Hill 21
James Hill 14
Ellen Hill 10
Rose Hill 8
Richard Hill 7
Samuel Hill 5
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:59 am
by Northern Lass
gardener wrote:Age is a bit off
1911
16 Perry's Lake, Springfield, Dudley
Mary Hill 57
James Hill 24
Rose Hannah Hill 19
Samuel Hill 15 born Rowley Regis
That could be him.....I don't know where the age came from on the UK transcriptions page for the St Giles roll of honour
it isnt repeated on other info re Samuel..............so it could be incorrect
I think the perrys Lake is important.
who is living at no 9 in 1911?
any marriage between 1911-1916?
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 9:31 am
by peterd
no 9 looks like hacketts there as no no on census adress page also 16 - 10 written in at a later date as in pencil not pen like the address
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:13 am
by Northern Lass
Not sure on this one at all
will put some notes on
so will archive unless someone can establish for sure which Samuel he is

Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:32 am
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:Can we find more and try and link him into Bcc pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =487359982RR memorial site
Samuel HILL missing believed killed 21st Aug 1916 The latter days of the Somme, France Aged 24
RR booklet
Hill Samuel 2061 Cpl 1/7th Worcester 22nd August 1916
9 Perrys Lake
Courtesy of Richard Warby
HILL Samuel
2061 Corporal: 1/7th Battalion, Worcestershire Regiment.
Missing believed killed: 21st August 1916 (possibly 22nd)
Born: Oldbury. Enlisted: Oldbury. Residence: 9, Perry’s Lake, Rowley Regis.
Memorial: Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France. Pier & Face 5A & 6C.
Also remembered: Civic Roll of Honour - Rowley Ward;
Doulton Road School 1914-18 Memorial.
anything on that address 9 Perrys lake in 1911 pls
or on CWGC site
in his earlier census must be near to the school ? doulton rd around springfield area
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:40 am
by peterd
eel st is 2.5 miles away 50 min walk on good road think this would be too far ?
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:40 am
by Jimmy
It also states born Oldbury, only one was the one I posted.
Re: Samuel Hill dob est 1892??
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:42 am
by peterd
Jimmy wrote:It also states born Oldbury, only one was the one I posted.
but weve seen place of birth wrong before only go in with the fact he on the school memorial ?
the modern springfield primary on the corner to dudley rd and doulton rd ?