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ARC TBC...........Ellen Price

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:08 pm
by mumbles
Marriage looked up by 18chestnut
St.Thomas Church Dudley .December 3rd.1900
Edward Wood 49 Widower Labourer Church St.Netherton Father James Wood Boatman
Ellen Ward 50 widow Church St,Netherton -Father Arthur Price Deceased
Both X
Witness Samuel Nock and Phoebe Nock Both signed.

1901 Census Church Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Ann Harris Head 26 (wid) Chain Maker
Arthur Harris son 6
Edith Harris dau 4
Florence Harris dau 2
Edward Wood Boarder 49 Watchman in Timber Yard
Ellene Wood wife 50 Commercial Clerk
Sarah Ward dau 15
Bertha Wood dau 10
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1911 Census no. 7 Dallow Street Old Hill Staffs.
Edward Wood Head 63 Disengaged Retired Watchman
Ellen Wood wife 65 born Old Hill Staffs.
Married 10 years, no children
Samuel Enoch Partridge son.in.law 22 Coal Miner Loader born Cradley Heath Staffs.
Bertha Partridge 21 born Old Hill Staffs.
Married 2 years, 1 child
Joseph Edward Partridge grd.son 1 born Old Hill Staffs.
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Can anyone find Ellen Price and her father Arthur Price
and 1st marriage to Unknown Ward ?

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:18 am
by Northern Lass
I cant see a marriage to a Ward :?

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:28 pm
by mallosa
Could this be it...

Marriages Dec 1866
Collyer Edward Croydon 2a 366
MITCHELL Kitty Croydon 2a 366
PRICE Helen L Croydon 2a 366
Ward Edward Croydon 2a 366

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:55 pm
by Jimmy
mallosa wrote:Could this be it...

Marriages Dec 1866
Collyer Edward Croydon 2a 366
MITCHELL Kitty Croydon 2a 366
PRICE Helen L Croydon 2a 366
Ward Edward Croydon 2a 366



England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Helen Louisa Price.
Name: Helen Louisa Price.
Gender: Female.
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1866.
Marriage Place: Croydon, Surrey, England.
Father: Edward Price.
Spouse: Edward Collyer.
FHL Film Number: 994336.
Reference ID: 2:3DP6Q4J.

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:06 pm
by Jimmy
The only Ellen ward I can see.
1891. Rowley Regis.
Ellen Ward 35. Widow. Dudley.
Joseph Ward 10. Son. Rowley Regis.
Elizabeth Ward 7. Dau. Rowley Regis.
Rubin Bucknall 41. Boarder. N.K.
William Barnes 23. Boarder. N.K.

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:30 pm
by Jimmy
mumbles wrote:Marriage looked up by 18chestnut
St.Thomas Church Dudley .December 3rd.1900
Edward Wood 49 Widower Labourer Church St.Netherton Father James Wood Boatman
Ellen Ward 50 widow Church St,Netherton -Father Arthur Price Deceased
Both X
Witness Samuel Nock and Phoebe Nock Both signed.


I notice the name of the witnesses,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1871.
WARD Isaac. NOCK Ellen. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/029/68.

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:51 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:The only Ellen ward I can see.
1891. Rowley Regis.
Ellen Ward 35. Widow. Dudley.
Joseph Ward 10. Son. Rowley Regis.
Elizabeth Ward 7. Dau. Rowley Regis.
Rubin Bucknall 41. Boarder. N.K.
William Barnes 23. Boarder. N.K.


do we have Ellen with hubby in 1881?

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:57 am
by Northern Lass
on the 1900 Edward Wood has
a Sarah Ward ............down as dau
is this a child of Ellen Wood nee Ward nee price

can we find Sarah Ward b 1885 on the 1891


1901 Census Church Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Ann Harris Head 26 (wid) Chain Maker
Arthur Harris son 6
Edith Harris dau 4
Florence Harris dau 2
Edward Wood Boarder 49 Watchman in Timber Yard
Ellene Wood wife 50 Commercial Clerk
Sarah Ward dau 15
Bertha Wood dau 10
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:08 am
by Jimmy
I could'nt see Sarah.

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:34 am
by mumbles
Checked 1901
1901 Census Church Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Ann Harris Head 26 (wid) Chain Maker
Arthur Harris son 6
Edith Harris dau 4
Florence Harris dau 2
Edward Wood Boarder 49 Watchman in Timber Yard
Ellene Wood wife 50
Sarah Ward dau 15
Bertha Wood dau 10
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

On transcription and original and Sarah Ward 15 is definitely Ward

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:53 am
by mumbles
Sarah Ann Harris Head of House
On 1911 Census is shown as Sarah E. Holmes and her Harris children are shown as Step.children of John Holmes
Sarah E. Ward married a John Harris in 1891 West Bromwich Reg. Office ( but she would have only been 15 or 16 )

HOLMES John HARRIS Sarah A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/37 1902

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:04 am
by mumbles
1911 Census 57 Station Road Old Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
John Holmes Head 38 Station Footman or Boatman
Sarah Holmes wife 36
Arthur Harris Step.son 16 Apprentice Odd Iron Work
Edith Harris Step.dau 14 Shoe Binder
Florence step.dau 12
Thomas Holmes son 8
William Holmes son 7
Beatrice Holmes dau 3
Herbert Holmes son 1
Married 9 years, 5 children, 4 living

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:20 am
by Jimmy
Could this be Ellen,

1851. Holy Cross, Clent.
John Price 40. Unm. Farmer. Clent.
Edward Price 36. Unm. Clent.
Ellina Price 3. Niece. Bilston.
Ann Burich 60.
Sarah Packwood 20.
Edward Ward 22. Unm. Blacksmith. Belbroughton.
George Abel 21.
John Pitt 17.

Deaths Mar 1912.
Wood Ellen. 64. Bromsgrove. 6c. 458.

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:26 am
by mumbles
Marriages looked up by RF

26 Aug 1894 Holy Trinity Old Hill
Moses HARRIS 21 B Anchor Striker Haden Cross Father Samuel Harris Labourer
Sarah Ann JOHNSON 21 S Ridding St Father Joseph Johnson Anchor Smith
Wit; Walter Homer / Sarah Homer

31 Mar 1902 St Giles Rowley Regis
John HOLMES 29 B Labourer Church Street Old Hill Father William Holmes (Dec) Labourer
Sarah HARRIS 27 W Church Street Father Joseph Johnson Anchor Smith
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Job Coley Griffiths / Amplias Johnson

So Ward connection is not right

Re: Ellen Price

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:33 am
by Northern Lass
Ok ......(cos getting confused now )..........is this what we have

We have an Ellen Price with father Arthur Price
She is born 1850 Rowley Regis

She marries a someone Ward...........there is one that Jimmy found I have that marriage info to post in min...
But she is an Ellen Nock..............however Ellens wits were a Samuel Nock and Phebe ?? ............so possible?

In 1901 there is a Sarah Ward living with Edward Ward and Ellen nee Ward/price
is she Ellens dau?
1901 Census Church Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Ann Harris Head 26 (wid) Chain Maker
Arthur Harris son 6
Edith Harris dau 4
Florence Harris dau 2
Edward Wood Boarder 49 Watchman in Timber Yard
Ellene Wood wife 50
Sarah Ward dau 15
Bertha Wood dau 10
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.


we cant find Ellen with father Arthur on census

did we find Sarah Ward b 1885 in the 1891 census?

and we cant find Ellen Price marriage to a ward