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This is an offshoot from the Richard Holloway topic

Philemon coley married a Selva Trueman...I am presuming this is the Philemon we have on connections mother Hannah
how many can there be b abt 1833
can we find the couple on the census married to confirm his dob and place of birth
should be the 1861

now she has to be a Tromans can we link her ?

PHILEMON COLEY
Marriages:
Spouse: SELVA TRUEMAN Marriage: 31 AUG 1856 Old Swinford, Worcester,

Extracted marriage

1861 census
Transcribed on ancestry as Caley
Heywood, Hiil, Worcestershire
Philemon Coley, Head, 27, labourer on land,Halseowen
Selva, wife, 27, nailor, Halseowen
Bertha, daur, 3, Halseowen
Philemon Lewis, son, 1, Halseowen

nice one Jo any chance you could add that to Philemon please if not no worries


wonder who she links to?

I'll add it.
Theres also a Philemon Coley showing on the Australian electoral rolls 1903, 1905 and 1913 with a Sylvia Coley. I wonder if thats them?
Jo

Could be ....I will look marriage up

but can we find this Selva on prev census pre marriage

and get her parents..

1856
TRUEMAN Selva COLEY Philemon Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/005/372

1841 Census
Mill Lane, Halesowen, Shropshire
William Troman, 40, Gun Welder
Ruth, 40,
William Frederick, 18
Philoman, 15,
James, 13,
Mira, 11,
Thomas, 9,
Silva, 7,
Solomon, 5,
Honnor, 3,
Ebenezer, 2,
Charles, 2 months

All born County

The next page is Heywood where Philemon and Selva were 1861.

think it is this one then...but not sure
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =639920220

WILLIAM TREWMANS
Marriages:
Spouse: RUTH PLANT
Marriage: 04 MAR 1821 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted marriage

1851 Census as Freeman on Ancestry, its hard to read but does look like the same family to me.
HO107; Piece: 2034; Folio: 256; Page: 32 If anyone wants to check?

Forge Lane, Halesowen
William, Head, 50, Gun Barrel Maker, Staffordshire, Gaisby(?) Hill
Ruth, wife, 50, Gaisby(?) Hill
Silvia, daur, 17, Nail maker, Halesowen
Honoria, daur, 13, Nail maker, Halesowen
Ebenezer, son, 12, Nail maker, Halesowen
Charles, son, 10 , Nail maker, Halesowen

I think that looks the rite one

all kids of Wm Tromans and Ruth
and extracted
so going to join up

MARY TROMANS Christening: About 11 JUL 1824 Halesowen, Worcester,

CHARLES TROMANS 04 APR 1841 Halesowen, Worcester,

HONOR TROMANS 18 JUN 1837 Halesowen, Worcester,

There was something the other day on census a child with the middle name Plant. Cant think who, first name may be George??
Jo

Oh found it now. It was george Plant Deeley. It was just the name and addresses made me think.
Jo

Jo any chance you could pull out the kids for this William and Ruth from census info and add to connections

I will add the ones I gave bapts for...

submitted


Selva Trueman

Birth: 1st December 1833 Halesowen, Worcester
Christening: 17th May 1835 Halesowen, Worcester
Death: 1921


Parents
Father: William Trueman
Mother: Ruth Plant


Spouse: Philemon Coley
Marriage: 31st August 1856
Parish of Old Sminford, County of Worcester, England


here the bcc link

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =655884582

All connects nicely on that lot

anyone got the Halesowen just to check that bapt for Selva?

We have the correct parents but would like to add bapt but not based on a submitted would like the extracted


Christening: 17th May 1835 Halesowen, Worcester

plus anyone find that death just to confirm for Selva Coley 1921?