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Posted: **Sun May 03, 2009 11:39 am**

Northern Lass wrote:I have done a marr look up the other half is running in another thread
So keeping the topics seperate

Can we find out who Caleb nicklin married and info on Nicklins going back
hopefully link to any on Connections
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =672399576

grangers14 wrote:Theres 2 possible marriages showing on West Mid BMD
1898
NICKLIN Caleb TAYLOR Mary A Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/2/489
NICKLIN Caleb TAYLOR Mary J Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/2/492

grangers14 wrote:I think this may be the family. Transcribed on ancestry as Niickler and Nickler
1901 Census
Butchers Lane Cradley
Mary J Nicklin, head, mar, 26, Cradley
May Taylor, sister, 12, Cradley
Caleb, son, 3, Cradley
John, son, 6 months, Cradley

There are some documents of service records that has this address and also wife as Mary Jane Taylor.
Jo

Jimmy wrote:1911.
In Halesowen. Cradley.
NICKLIN. DAISY. F. 1907. 4. Stourbridge. Worcestershire.
NICKLIN. FLORRIE. F. 1910. 1. Stourbridge. Worcestershire.
NICKLIN. FLORRY. F. 1884. 27. Stourbridge. Worcestershire.
NICKLIN. CALEB J. M 1881. 30. Stourbridge. Worcestershire.

Jimmy wrote:1911, under the name CABEB

Cradley.

NICKLIN ANNIE. F. 1909. 2 Stourbridge Worcestershire .
NICKLIN CABEB. M. 1867. 44 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN CABEB. M. 1899. 12 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN FLORRIE. F. 1911. 3 MONTHS Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN JANE. F. 1875. 36 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN JOHN. M. 1901. 10 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN JOSEPH. M. 1905. 6 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN LEAH. F. 1903. 8 Stourbridge Worcestershire.

peterd wrote:poss calab

CALEB NICKLIN
Christening: 30 AUG 1869 Cradley, Worcester,

JOHN NICKLIN
SARAH

peterd wrote:poss siblings parents john and sarah

JOSHUA NICKLIN
Christening: 05 MAY 1862 Cradley, Worcester,

MARY JANE NICKLIN
Christening: 14 SEP 1868 Cradley, Worcester,

THOMAS NICKLIN
Christening: 29 OCT 1856 Cradley, Worcester,

CALEB NICKLIN
Christening: 30 AUG 1869 Cradley, Worcester,

ALFRED NICKLIN
Christening: 02 NOV 1874 Cradley, Worcester,

carnt find these on 1881 anyone find them

peterd wrote:poss marriage

John Nicklen
Sarah Ellis
Marriage: 25 SEP 1853 St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester,

NICKLIN John ELLIS Sarah 1853 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/002/136

peterd wrote:
Jimmy wrote:1911, under the name CABEB

Cradley.

NICKLIN ANNIE. F. 1909. 2 Stourbridge Worcestershire .
NICKLIN CABEB. M. 1867. 44 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN CABEB. M. 1899. 12 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN FLORRIE. F. 1911. 3 MONTHS Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN JANE. F. 1875. 36 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN JOHN. M. 1901. 10 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN JOSEPH. M. 1905. 6 Stourbridge Worcestershire.
NICKLIN LEAH. F. 1903. 8 Stourbridge Worcestershire.

grangers14 wrote:I think this may be the family. Transcribed on ancestry as Niickler and Nickler
1901 Census
Butchers Lane Cradley
Mary J Nicklin, head, mar, 26, Cradley
May Taylor, sister, 12, Cradley
Caleb, son, 3, Cradley
John, son, 6 months, Cradley

Possibly

1861 Census,
Butcher Lane Cradley
John Nicklin, head, 32, Forge Man, Cradley
Sarah, wife, 24, Cradley
Thomas, son, 4, Cradley

1871 Census
Imnage (?) Lane, Cradley
John Nicklin, head, 48(?) Puddler, Cradley
Sarah, wife, 34, Cradley
Thomas, son, 14, Cradley
Joshua, son, 8, Cradley
Caleb, son, 5, Cradley
Mary, daur, 2, Cradley

peterd wrote:1911 added need more census to confirm other info

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =737960157

peterd wrote:look good grangers

grangers14 wrote:Mirror to the Flock 1857 has an entry 627
Overend
Nicklin John, Puddler no church, Sarah, no church,2 John, 3 July. Thomas, 1 Sep. Hannah Nicklin, 78, church seldom, ill, no sacrament
catechumen HN was christend at 26 with her children.
1851 census has
Overend
Hannah Nicklin, hed, w, 68, pauper, Cradley
John, son, 27, puddler, Cradley
Thomas Poole, grandson, 14, millman, Cradley

1841 Census
Transcribed as Nicklen
Colby Gate, The fold,
Hannah Nicklin, 60, widow
Thomas, 20, Puddler
John, 18, Puddler
/Thomas Pool, 4 not born county

grangers14 wrote:IGI shows
HANNAH NICKLIN Pedigree
Female Family

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

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Other Event(s):
Adult Christening: 15 MAR 1809 Cradley, Worcester, England

Age at Adult Christening: 26

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Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN NICKLIN Family

Nicklin with parents as Hannah and John

1. PHEBE NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 SEP 1803 Cradley, Worcester, England

2. MARIA NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 FEB 1808 Cradley, Worcester, England

3. MARY NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 JUN 1818 Cradley, Worcester, England

4. THOMAS NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 APR 1821 Cradley, Worcester, England

5. NANCY NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 FEB 1805 Cradley, Worcester, England

6. HARRIOT NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 FEB 1811 Cradley, Worcester, England

peterd wrote:up dated

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =731877464

peterd wrote:
grangers14 wrote:IGI shows
HANNAH NICKLIN Pedigree
Female Family

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

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Other Event(s):
Adult Christening: 15 MAR 1809 Cradley, Worcester, England

Age at Adult Christening: 26

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Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN NICKLIN Family

Nicklin with parents as Hannah and John

1. PHEBE NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 SEP 1803 Cradley, Worcester, England

2. MARIA NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 FEB 1808 Cradley, Worcester, England

3. MARY NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 JUN 1818 Cradley, Worcester, England

4. THOMAS NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 APR 1821 Cradley, Worcester, England

5. NANCY NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 FEB 1805 Cradley, Worcester, England

6. HARRIOT NICKLIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 FEB 1811 Cradley, Worcester, England

is this pheobe ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =729453099

poss marriage ?

JOHN NICKLIN
HANNAH COX
Marriage: 08 NOV 1802 Halesowen, Worcester,

boz wrote:Marriage 6th Feb 1898 Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Caleb Nicklin 1869 Occ. Puddler Res. Five Ways Father John Occ. Puddler

Mary Jane Taylor 1874 Res. Five Ways Father Henry Occ. Chainmaker

Witnesses Thomas & Harriet Nicklin

Boz

peterd wrote:thanks boz

this is intresting

thomas and hannah witnesses for cabel marriage

found this marriage

NICKLIN Thomas COX Harriet 1880 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/035/444

also note previous hannah cox and john nicklin poss parent of pheobe poss mother to thomas and john (father of cabel)

peterd wrote:thomas and harriet

1881 23 Sanson Street Darlington, Durham

Thomas NICKLEN 24 Cradeley, Worcester, Puddler At Iron Works
Harriet NICKLEN 24 Cradeley, Worcester,
Caleb NICKLEN 10 m Cradeley, Worcester,

peterd wrote:harriet cox poss 1 of 2 ?

HARRIET COX
Christening: 19 JUL 1857 Cradley, Worcester,
Father: MARK COX
Mother: NANCY

or

HARRIET COX
Christening: 22 OCT 1856 Cradley, Worcester,
Father: JOSEPH COX
Mother: ANN

Northern Lass wrote:not really following this but have we a connection?
and can we add all that we can on this.....

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 11:17 am**

Have looked up Calebs parents marriage

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =957564684

can we find out who father to John is?

I am opening a new post on Joshua Ellis's partner

he marries 1853 so should be on prev census

I have done this look up and wondered if it is Johns parents

for Pete ...nother look up

8 Nov 1802 Halesowen
-John Nicklin otp widower
-Hannah Cox otp spinster
banns
wit - David Grove /Richard Fiddian

fiddian is on loads!

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 11:51 am**

Rite looks like Hannah is his mother and that marriage could be his parents

need John and Hannah on 1841

1851 at Overend Cradley
Hannah Nicklin h wid 68 pauper b Cradley
John Nicklin son u puddler b Cradley
Thomas Poole 14 Grandson Millener? b Cradley

1841 Colley gate the fold
Hannah Nicklin widow 60 y
Thomas Nicklin 20 puddler y
John Nicklin 18 Puddler (ditto) y
Thomas Pool 4 n
and next door a John Grove age 35 could he be the son of David Grove witness on marr doc for John Nicklin and Hannah Cox?

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 11:55 am**

This guys is on the 1841 as bro to John so I am going with that marriage
THOMAS NICKLIN Christening: 01 APR 1821 Cradley, Worcester, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN NICKLIN
Mother: HANNAH
Extracted birth

loads of other kids too
will post 1841 with 1851 above

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 1:59 pm**

moved the Henry TAylor to its own thread so any on that please post on that thread
keep this for the Nicklins
:wink:

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 2:34 pm**

think phoebe need to be linked in ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =729453099

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 2:44 pm**

peterd wrote:think phoebe need to be linked in ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =729453099

how do we know that is the rite Phobe?

I know it says in notes and if there is a bapt looks good...
but we need to prove that that Phobe who married Benj is dau of John Nicklin and Hannah Cox

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 2:59 pm**

Northern Lass wrote:
peterd wrote:think phoebe need to be linked in ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =729453099

how do we know that is the rite Phobe?

I know it says in notes and if there is a bapt looks good...
but we need to prove that that Phobe who married Benj is dau of John Nicklin and Hannah Cox

if you do a search for phoebe with parents john and hannah on igi no date two come up one submitted one extracted same christening date subbmitted one a year out so cannot find another poss if she is someone different she might not be on igi ?

also when doing a search for a phoebe nicklin marriage 5 on igi only one poss

PHEBE NICKLIN
BENJAMIN ROSE
Marriage: 10 FEB 1822 Old Swinford, Worcester,

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:02 pm**

you cant find another bapt ok but that doesnt mean that the Phoebe who married Benj Rose is the Phoebe with parents John Nicklin and Hannah cox does it?

We need more proof.

Hannah is on 1841 and 1851
be great if on 1861 she is with Phoebe Rose!

the names /Nancy/Harriett are there granted...and Hannah could be shortened from Roshannah as Rosahannah Rose is a mouthful

it looks good but need that other piece

could look up marriage see if sibs on marriage

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:11 pm**

if this is her it might tie her into the grove

1881 Stourbridge Rd Hawn, Worcester

James GROVE 56 Halesowen, Worcester, Horn & Bone Ivory Button Maker Employing 41 Men 49 Women 80 Boys 58 Girls
Ann E. GROVE 54 Halesowen, Worcester,
Phebe ROSE Mother In Law W 80 Halesowen, Worcester, Formerly Spade Makers Widow ?
Walter GROVE 18 Halesowen, Worcester, Clerk In Button Factory
Juliet GROVE 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Alfred GROVE 12 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Harry GROVE 10 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Edith EVESON Grandaur 7 Lye Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Mercy LLOYD Serv 17 Lye, Worcester, Serv Domestic

next door

Arthur J. GROVE 25 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Manufacturer
Eliza J. GROVE 23 Coventry, Warwick,
Arthur J. GROVE 2 Halesowen, Worcester,
Florence A. GROVE 4 m Halesowen, Worcester,
Elizabeth JEFFREY Visitor 31 Scotland Dre

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:11 pm**

wonder if Phoebe marries after 1851 that would be good
Benj rose dies

need Phoebe on census
after 1851

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:13 pm**

peterd wrote:if this is her it might tie her into the grove

1881 Stourbridge Rd Hawn, Worcester

James GROVE 56 Halesowen, Worcester, Horn & Bone Ivory Button Maker Employing 41 Men 49 Women 80 Boys 58 Girls
Ann E. GROVE 54 Halesowen, Worcester,
Phebe ROSE Mother In Law W 80 Halesowen, Worcester, Formerly Spade Makers Widow ?
Walter GROVE 18 Halesowen, Worcester, Clerk In Button Factory
Juliet GROVE 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Alfred GROVE 12 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Harry GROVE 10 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Edith EVESON Grandaur 7 Lye Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Mercy LLOYD Serv 17 Lye, Worcester, Serv Domestic

this rings a bell
think this is another Rose.....we might have em on BCC

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:13 pm**

poss marriage

GROVE James ROSE Anne E 1845 Stourbridge Register Office West Midlands Dudley Register Office 001/001/42

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:15 pm**

here they are she a white

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =467041964

added the census no point in wasting it

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =131568032

Posted: **Sat May 16, 2009 3:17 pm**

that button maker James grove and he married a Rose....cant remember now

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