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"Complete"Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:46 pm
by mumbles
Jacob Hill :-

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... i=69273542

1) Daughter Phoebe Hill married a Nebo Allport son of James and Ann Allport

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =861821277

2) 1861 Census Allports Dingle Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
John Hill Head 30 Coal Miner born Oldswinford Worcs.
Maria Hill wife 30 born Oldswinford Worcs.
Fanny Hill dau 11 Scholar born Oldswinford Worcs.
John Hill son 8 born Oldswinford Worcs.
Nebo Hill son 5
William Hill son 3
Ann Allport mother.in.law 58 (wid)
Maria Allport sister.in.law 19
Rest born Kingswinford Worcs.

Puzzle is that if Ann is mother.in.law and Maria sister.in.law
How could wife of John Hill also be Maria ?
She is Maria in 1871 and 1881 also

only marriage found
SPARRY Maria HILL John Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/003/363 1853
but daughter Fanny Hill is born in 1850 ?

Re: Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:58 pm
by Maths girl
My guess would be a second marriage somewhere-- either of Maria Hill's parents or herself.

Re: Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:29 am
by mumbles
Tried
a) Second marriage option but no joy
b) tried Fanny Hill and Fanny Sparry options but no joy
c) tried marriages for John Hill to a Maria and no joy except Sparry option

I think possibly relationship is wrong and Ann Allport and Maria are related through marriage of Nebo Allport to Phebe Hill ( sister of John Hill)
Although Ann Allport lodger is living with Maria Hill in 1881

Re: Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:32 am
by Northern Lass
So Maria dau is the one aged 19 in 1861
and here in 1851

1851 Census Allports Dingle Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
James Alport Head 60 Pauper Formerly Clay Getter
Ann Alport wife 48 born Oldswinford Worcs.
Nehemiah Alport son 16 Fire Clay Miner
Mathew Alport son 14 Fire Clay Miner
Job Alport son 11 Fire Clay Miner
Maria Alport dau 9 Scholar
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs.

so as you say why is ann down as mother in law....was John married prev to one of the sisters?

Re: Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:34 am
by Northern Lass
Or is it just that Anns son Nebo marries Johns sister Phebe....so she is mother in law to his sister Phebe
and sort of generally to Him....but not in the true sense

Re: Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:36 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Tried
a) Second marriage option but no joy
b) tried Fanny Hill and Fanny Sparry options but no joy
c) tried marriages for John Hill to a Maria and no joy except Sparry option

I think possibly relationship is wrong and Ann Allport and Maria are related through marriage of Nebo Allport to Phebe Hill ( sister of John Hill)
Although Ann Allport lodger is living with Maria Hill in 1881


I agree

can we connect up JOhn HIll??

can you pot marriage for look up too mumbles

:grin:

Re: Hill/Allport conection puzzle

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:22 pm
by mumbles
Will do NL