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*Arc Tbc* Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:03 am
by gardener
I came across this lady's name in a trade-directory

Academies:
Amelia Nock, High Street, Cradley Heath

She is here http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ock-Family

1881

Name: Amelia Nock
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Kingswinford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Street Address: Mount Pleasant Ladies Seminary
Occupation: Governess Ladies Seminary
Name Age
Amelia Nock 69
Gertrude M. Whitney 8
Emma Whitney 35
Mary Bolands 33

by 1901 she was:
Amelia Nock 88 Stowbridge Worcester Chester Adlington Ret School Mistress BUT according to the familysearch transcription she is "mother in law"

Could somebody have a look and see what the entry says please?


She didn't die until
Deaths Jun 1903
Nock Amelia 90 Macclesfield 8a 68

Re: Who's mother in law is she?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:14 am
by rockyfowler
1851
NOCK, Amelia Head Unmarried F 35 1816 School Mistress (Private)
Stourbridge, Worcestershire
NOCK, Eliza P Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar (At Homes)
Cradley, Worcestershire

Club Building, Rowley Regis
Staffordshire


1861
NOCK, Amelia Head Unmarried F 46 1815 Governess
Stourbridge, Worcestershire
NOCK, Eliza Phobe Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Assistant Governess
Cradley, Worcestershire

High Street, Rowley Regis
Staffordshire

8 Oct 1864 St Mary Oldswinford
George Richard HOPKINS 36 W School Master Upper Arley Father George Richard Hopkins Wire Drawer
Eliza Phoebe NOCK 20 S Stourbridge
Father Edward Faithful Ash Nock Merchants Clerk
After Banns Both signed
Wit; Thomas Lozell / Amelia Nock

1871
HOPKINS, George R Head M 42 1829 Worcestershire
HOPKINS, Eliza P Wife F 27 1844 Staffordshire
HOPKINS, Amy G Daughter F 5 1866 Staffordshire
HOPKINS, George E Son M 3 1868 Isle of Wight

Wood Lane, Adlington
Cheshire

1871
NOCK, Amelia Head F 58 1813 Worcestershire
NOCK, Louisa Ed Boarder's Half Sister F 18 1853 Staffordshire
PASKIN, Clara Mat Boarder F 17 1854 Worcestershire
HIPKISS, Frank Boarder M 7 1864 Worcestershire
ROWLANDS, Mary Servant F 23 1848 Herefordshire

Mount Pleasant, Kingswinford
Worcestershire


1881
HOPKINS, George R Head Married M 52 1829 School Master
Wolverley, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS, Eliza P Wife Married F 36 1845 School Mistress
Cradley Heath, Staffordshire
HOPKINS, Amy G Daughter Single F 15 1866 Scholar
Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
HOPKINS, George E Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Whitwell, Isle of Wight, Hampshire
HOPKINS, Harry D Son Single M 0 1881
Adlington, Cheshire

School House, Adlington
Cheshire


1891
HOPKINS, George Richard Head Widower M 62 1829 National School Master
Wolverley, Worcestershire
BANN, Amy Georgina Daughter Married F 25 1866 Assistant Mistress
Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
HOPKINS, Harry Davis Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Adlington, Cheshire
HOPKINS, Clarice Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Adlington, Cheshire
BANN, Emily Georgina Granddaughter F 1 (12M) 1890
Adlington, Cheshire
BANN, James Son In Law Married M 26 1865 Office Clerk
Poynton, Cheshire
NOCK, Amelia Mother In Law Widow F 78 1813 Retired School Mistress
Stourbridge, Staffordshire

School House, Wood Lanes, Adlington

Cheshire


1901
HOPKINS, George R Head Widower M 72 1829 Retired School Master
Wolverley, Worcestershire
HOPKINS, Clarice Daughter Single F 18 1883
Adlington, Cheshire
NOCK, Amelia Mother-In-Law Widow F 88 1813 Retired School Mistress
Stourbridge, Worcestershire
BANN, James Son-In-Law Married M 35 1866 Clerk Colliery
Poynton, Cheshire
BANN, Amy G Daughter Married F 34 1867
Quarry Bank, Staffordshire
BANN, Emily G Grand Daughter Single F 11 1890
Adlington, Cheshire
BANN, Ernest H Grand Son Single M 9 1892
Adlington, Cheshire
BANN, Regnald J Grand Son Single M 2 1899
Adlington, Cheshire

Wood Lanes, Adlington
Cheshire

Re: Whose mother in law is she?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:54 pm
by gardener
Thanks RF!
I am surprised that she was able to teach if she had a daughter but was unmarried. Interesting name for the daughter's father on the wedding certificate.

I had a look at the Samuel Nock page on BCC and there seem to be a few errors/incomplete bits.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ock-Family


1.

it says
1841 Oldswinford Worcestershire
Saml Nock age 45 Accountant brn in county
Ann Marie Nock age 30 Not brn in county
Matilda age Nock 15 brn in county
Anna maria Nock age 5 brn in county
Eliza Nock age 3 not brn in county
Skidmore West Nock age 2 -this should say Samuel....
born in county


I wonder if it should be Skidmore West because he seems to have died (unless that is a different one)
Deaths Jun 1844
NOCK Skidmore West Stourbridge 18 320


2.

1851 67 Cock Street, Wolverhampton
Samuel Noch 58 - Bank accountant - b Dudley
Hannah M Noch 30 - b Stambridge?
Lydia Noch 7 - b Stambridge?
Samuel A W Noch 2
Mane S Nock 5
Ann M Nock 7 Mo
Sarah Hyde 21 - Servant - b Sedgley
Morna Wegslead 11 - Servant - b Sedgley
others b Wolverhampton

1861 102 Lock Street, Wolverhampton
Samuel Nock 69 - Bank accountant - b Dudley
Ann Maria Nock 49 - b Wordley or Worcester
Lydia Mary Nock 17 - b Stownbridge?
Samuel A West Nock 12
Ann M Nock 10
Louisa E Nock 7
Sarah Ann Harrison 17 - Domestic servant - b Bolton Lancs
others b Wolverhampton

There was a mass baptism at Wolverhampton St George

NOCK Louisa Edith dau.of Samuel & Anna Maria 1 May 1861 Cock Street Banker
NOCK Lydia Mary dau.of Samuel & Anna Maria 1 May 1861 Cock Street Banker
NOCK Samuel Alfred Weston son of Samuel & Anna Maria 1 May 1861 Cock Street Banker
NOCK Anna Maria dau.of Samuel & Anna Maria 1 May 1861 Cock Street Banker

I think these are the births to fit, though the names are shorter:

Births Dec 1844
Nock Lydia Dudley 18 300

Births Dec 1848
Nock Samuel Wolverhampton 17 363

Births Dec 1850
Nock Anna Wolverhampton 17 397

Births Mar 1854
Nock Louisa Wolverhampton 6b 351

The two older girls were baptised:

father: Samuel Nock
mother: Anna Maria

Eliza Nock

christening: 26 April 1838 Saint Leonard,Bilston,Stafford,England

and

father: Samuel Nock
mother: Anne Maria

Name Anne Maria Nock
Gender Female
Christening Date 26 Apr 1838
Christening Place St Leonard's, Stafford, England

3.
Happened to stumble over this

Mary Skidmore Nock
christening: 17 May 1853 Reddall-Hill, Stafford, England


father: Joseph Bate Nock
mother: Caroline

which suggests this marriage
Marriages Dec 1850
Davies Thomas Birmingham 16 562
Hind Caroline Birmingham 16 562
Hunt Mary Birmingham 16 562
Nock Joseph Bate Birmingham 16 562
Nott Mary Birmingham 16 562
Peeks William Birmingham 16 562
Tyers Mary Birmingham 16 562
Ward Mary Ann Bush Birmingham 16 562
Wilkes Matthew Birmingham 16 562

and a whole heap of kids on family search if anyone fancies adding them :roll:

Re: Whose mother in law is she?

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:08 am
by Northern Lass
Some of this deffo needs adding and working thru

I will sticky and mr green it. :grin:

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Needs adding to Bcc

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:52 pm
by grangers14
I will do on Sunday.
Jo :)

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:15 pm
by grangers14
1851 67 Cock Street, Wolverhampton
Samuel Noch 58 - Bank accountant - b Dudley
Hannah M Noch 30 - b Stambridge?
Lydia Noch 7 - b Stambridge?
Samuel A W Noch 2
Mane S Nock 5
Ann M Nock 7 Mo
Sarah Hyde 21 - Servant - b Sedgley
Morna Wegslead 11 - Servant - b Sedgley
others b Wolverhampton


I wonder who this girl was, it does look a bit like Maria S or is it a J?
Can youu see a christening for something like that Gardener please?
There is birth 1846 in Wolverhampton. Just as Maria

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:35 pm
by grangers14
Looks like Samuel re married ?
1871. Chain Hill Road, Oldswinford
Samuel Nock, head, 80, Retired Bank officer, Dudley
Eliza, wife, 59,
Lydia M, daur, 27,
Polly Powles? serv, 14, domestic servant,
All others born Stourbridge

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:37 pm
by grangers14
??
1841. Cradley, Halesowen
Amelia Nock, 25, Governess
Phebe Nock, 15,
All born in County

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:25 pm
by gardener
This is a nightmare!

Burial for NOCK Matilda 25 9 Apr 1847 at Wolverhampton, St George

1851 67 Cock Street, Wolverhampton
Samuel Noch 58 - Bank accountant - b Dudley
Hannah M Noch 30 - b Stambridge?
Lydia Noch 7 - b Stambridge?
Samuel A W Noch 2
Mane S Nock 5
Ann M Nock 7 Mo


I can't find any trace of Mane S Nock.
I wondered if she was a Mary Skidmore Nock like the daughter of Joseph Bate Nock, but I can't find a birth or anything with Samuel as father. Sorry.

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:43 pm
by gardener
grangers14 wrote:
1851 67 Cock Street, Wolverhampton
Samuel Noch 58 - Bank accountant - b Dudley
Hannah M Noch 30 - b Stambridge?
Lydia Noch 7 - b Stambridge?
Samuel A W Noch 2
Mane S Nock 5
Ann M Nock 7 Mo
Sarah Hyde 21 - Servant - b Sedgley
Morna Wegslead 11 - Servant - b Sedgley
others b Wolverhampton


I wonder who this girl was, it does look a bit like Maria S or is it a J?
Can youu see a christening for something like that Gardener please?
There is birth 1846 in Wolverhampton. Just as Maria


and this one
Name: Mary Elizabeth Nock
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1845
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Volume: 17
Page: 299

I think we should shelve it for now :roll:

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:35 pm
by grangers14
I wonder if she died? Theres a death in 1859 in Wolverhampton?
I have added as Maria and made a note. So confusing this... :?
Jo :)

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:44 pm
by grangers14
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar 1873
Samuel Nock Effects inder £200
3 January. Administration of the effects of Samuel Nock late of Lower Swinford in the County of Worcester
who died 3 December 1872 at Lower Swinford was granted at Worcester to William Harrison Nock of Four Ways Cradley Heath in the County of Stafford Brewer the son and one of the next of kin

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:21 pm
by grangers14
I think I have added all I can.
If you have time Gardener would you check through and see if you agree?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =717616813

Re: Whose mother in law is she?-Jo Adding

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:08 pm
by grangers14
Ive split Joseph from this thread.
So we will archive this...
Jo :)