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*ARC TBC* Francis J Barker--Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:07 am
by kimberrywickham
Hello

Can anyone help with this family.

Francis James Barker born 1875 Brockmoor Staffs and his wife Flora Born 1877 Wolverley Worcester they had three children Frances Flora, Phyllis May and Frederick James. They are living at 23 Crescent Road Netherton on the 1911 census.

On Ancestry some people have this family all dying in 1911, I can find no evidence to suggest that this is true, was there an epidemic or accident were this family all died together? There is evidence to suggest that Francis his wife and Phyllis went to the States, I do not have a world subscription to Ancestry so can not confirm this.

Any help with this mystery would great
Thanks Kim

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:03 am
by Northern Lass
hi Kim

is this Francis on Bcc
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =376934810

Do you have the full marriage info we can add?

Marriages Jun 1900
Barker Francis James Kidderminster 6c 416
Bryant Flora Kidderminster 6c 416
Head Esther Spillman Kidderminster 6c 416
Walker William Kidderminster 6c 41


do you want me to put you connect on Francis in notes?
so if anyone sees it and connects they can contact you via forum?

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:36 am
by rockyfowler
Marriage Locator Search Results

GRO Index: 1900 quarter 2, volume 6c, page 416:

This marriage was at Wolverley (RD: Kidderminster).

This marriage can be looked up at Worcester Archives

1911
BARKER, James Francis Head Married
10 years M 36 1875 Boot And Shoe Operative Finisher Staffordshire Brockmor
BARKER, Flora Wife Married F 34 1877 Worcestershire Wolverley
BARKER, Frances Flora Daughter Single F 9 1902 Worcestershire Wolverley
BARKER, Phyllis May Daughter Single F 7 1904 Staffordshire Brierley Hill
BARKER, Frederick James Son Single M 1 1910 Worcestershire Netherton
3 children born Alive
23 Crescent Road Netherton Dudley
Staffordshire

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:59 pm
by Northern Lass
can anyone see if on Ancestry there is an emigration for family please

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:02 pm
by grangers14
New York Passenger list
Port of departure, Liverpool, 23 August 1930 Arrival date, 1st September 1930
Ship. Scythia
Arrivel date
Francis J Barker, 56, Bootmaker, born Brierley Hill
Flora, 53, wife, born Worcester
Frederick J, 21, engineer, born Dudley
Issued London 1 July 1930
Last address Netherton

1940. 8906, Brickdale, Cleveland, Ohio
Francis J Baker, head, 65, Proprietor, Shoe repair
Flora, wife, 63,
Sydney Simmons, son in law,38, Moulder, ?
Pyliss, daughter, 36,
All born in England

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:23 pm
by Northern Lass
nice one....I will try and add this later unless anyone else can

can we connect up?

Kim need that marriage if you have it please :wink:

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:34 pm
by grangers14
UK Outward Passenger List
Departure date 20 October 1937
Port of depature Southampton
Ship name Aquitania
Sydney Simmons, 36, moulder
Pyliss, 33, H wife
2 Holncroft? Road, Tipton,

New York passenger list.
Sydney Simmons, 36, Molder USA Naturalised Dist Court, Cleveland ?
Phylis May, 33, H wife, Britain, English, Quarry Bank, Issue date 22nd June 1937, USA Cleveland

Incoming Passenger lists
New York – Southampton
16 August 1937
Sydney Simmons, 36, 2 Holecroft Road, Burnt Tree, Tipton, Moulder, usa

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:58 pm
by grangers14
1930 Chandler Avenue, Chattanooga, Tennesse
Sidney Simmons, head, 28, married aged 22, immigration year, 1928 moulder in iron foundry
Phyliss, wife, 28, married aged 22, immigration year, 1928

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:26 pm
by grangers14
UK Outward passenger list
Departure date, 9 th March 1929
Frances Barker, Netheron, Clerk, 76, (perhaps this should be 26?
Phyliss Barker, Netherton, Clerk, 25
Both intended permanent of residence USA

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:51 am
by kimberrywickham
Hello All

Thank you so much for all the information. It was bugging me that some people on ancestry had them all dying in the same year when there was no evidence that this was true.

Francis was my great uncle brother to Benjamin my great grandad. Yes that is the one on bcc his parents were another Benjamin Barker b 1846 and Ann Marie Bird b 1848.

Yes it would be nice to have a note on bcc, any information on the wider family is always great to have, it might also help someone else.

Sorry I do not have a marriage certificate but I am 99% certain that this is correct, they were married at Kidderminster 1900. That's them on the 1911 census. I live in Suffolk so unable to look up the marriage maybe some kind person can have a look for me.

Would some be able to email me copies of passenger list and US census returns?

Thank again for all the information my mind is at rest now.

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:37 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok Kim I will sticky and add this when I get a min.....

if Jo is around she may do the hons re email for you

JO chuck..... :wink:

and I I ask nicely Jo are you busy...re adding?

or I will over next few days :grin:

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths--NL adding to Bcc

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:51 pm
by rockyfowler
Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Postby rockyfowler » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:36 am
Marriage Locator Search Results

GRO Index: 1900 quarter 2, volume 6c, page 416:

This marriage was at Wolverley (RD: Kidderminster).

This marriage can be looked up at Worcester Archives

1911
BARKER, James Francis Head Married
10 years M 36 1875 Boot And Shoe Operative Finisher Staffordshire Brockmor
BARKER, Flora Wife Married F 34 1877 Worcestershire Wolverley
BARKER, Frances Flora Daughter Single F 9 1902 Worcestershire Wolverley
BARKER, Phyllis May Daughter Single F 7 1904 Staffordshire Brierley Hill
BARKER, Frederick James Son Single M 1 1910 Worcestershire Netherton
3 children born Alive
23 Crescent Road Netherton Dudley
Staffordshire



That Wolverley Marriage Needs To be looked up at Worcester Archives :wink:

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths--NL adding to Bcc

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:59 pm
by grangers14
Jo adding.
Jo :)

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:01 pm
by grangers14
kimberrywickham wrote:Hello All

Thank you so much for all the information. It was bugging me that some people on ancestry had them all dying in the same year when there was no evidence that this was true.

Francis was my great uncle brother to Benjamin my great grandad. Yes that is the one on bcc his parents were another Benjamin Barker b 1846 and Ann Marie Bird b 1848.

Yes it would be nice to have a note on bcc, any information on the wider family is always great to have, it might also help someone else.

Sorry I do not have a marriage certificate but I am 99% certain that this is correct, they were married at Kidderminster 1900. That's them on the 1911 census. I live in Suffolk so unable to look up the marriage maybe some kind person can have a look for me.

Would some be able to email me copies of passenger list and US census returns?

Thank again for all the information my mind is at rest now.


Sent some messages to you.
Jo :)

Re: Francis J Barker and family deaths--Jo adding to Bcc

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:05 pm
by kimberrywickham
Hello

I'd like to say a big thank you to you all for your help.

And thank you Jo for sending me the copies received them all, gives me a better picture now.

I will post in the lookup forum for the marriage someone might be able to help.

Thanks again
Kim