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1841 Adelaide St, Southwick, Monkwearmouth
Isaac Mallin 30 glassmaker
Mary Mallin 30
William Mallin 10
Isaac Mallin 8
George Mallin 3
Emily Mallin 9 Mo

1861 Feeder ? St, Smethwick
Isaac Mallin 53 crown glass manager ? west bromwich
Mary Ann Mallin 52 lemmington, northumberland
William Mallin 29 sheet glass cutter
George Mallin 22
Emala Mallin 19
Mary Mallin 16
Thomas Mallin 14 west bromwich
Westley Mallin 9 smethwick
rest Southwick,(sunderland area) Durham

1881; 5 Mount Pleasnt, Bearwood Hill North, Harborne
Isaac Mallin 74 glass maker west bromwich
Mary Mallin 73 lemmington
Emala Mallin 40 dress maker, Southwick
Wesley Mallin 30 Glass Cutter, Smethwick
Thomas Cane 28 lodger, Labourer In Iron Works, ireland
Henry Bills 22 lodger, Engine Driver In Iron Works, brierley hill

can we link them into the shakespeares ?

1901; 13 waterloo Rd, Smethwick
Thomas Shakespear 70 Stationeer, shopkeeper, Dudley
Emala Shakespear 52 sunderland


Marriages Jun 1885
MALLIN Emala Birmingham 6d 213
SHAKESPEARE Thomas Birmingham 6d 213


could it be this one of sp ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =460764402

1911; 23 Waterloo Road, Smethwick
Emala Shakespear 65 married, (28 years, no kids )news agent, sunderland

peterd wrote:can we link them into the shakespeares ?

1901; 13 waterloo Rd, Smethwick

Thomas Shakespear 70 Stationeer, shopkeeper, Dudley
Emala Shakespear 52 sunderland



Marriages Jun 1885
MALLIN Emala Birmingham 6d 213
SHAKESPEARE Thomas Birmingham 6d 213


could it be this one of sp ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =460764402

Interesting find Pete!
Wonder where they were in 1891? - it's possible Thomas was married before given the age difference: there may still be children from an earlier marriage with them in 1891?

There was that one Pete, and another b 1828 s of Daniel and Sarah, and one b 1832 s of Elijah & Ann, (all Brierley Hill) - but not one born in Dudley, so one of them looks possible - will have a look at what I have, but it may take a day or two. Need to find earlier census for Thomas Shakespeare, but him being a Stationer rings a bell.

Northern Lass wrote:split thread will add in min

is that marriage on ancestry info? full info for Emily?

Can't see it.

1891. 13 Waterloo Rd, Harborne.
Thomas Sharespere 68. can't make out occupation. Dudley, Staffordshire.
Emala Sharespere 49. Muherham, Denbighshire. looks more like Sunderland on image.
Malley Mallen 11. Visitor. Stepney, London.

???
Deaths Mar 1902.
Shakespeare Thomas 78. King's N. 6c. 301.

I think that 1891 says his occupation is Engine Driver


1881: 4 Mount Pleasnt Bearwood Hill North
Benjamin Attwood 50 Engine Driver In Forge born South of France (added to BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ood-Family)
Ann Attwood 55 Brewood, born Staffordshire
Thomas Shakespear 60 Wid Engine Driver In Forge born Brierley Hill, Staffordshire

next door ...

Isaac Mallin 74 Glass Maker
Mary Mallin 73
Emala Mallin 40 Dau Southwick, Durham
Wesley Mallin 30 Son Unm Smethwick, Staffordshire
Thomas Cane 28 Lodger Unm Labourer In Iron Works
Henry Bills 22 Lodger Unm Engine Driver In Iron Works

Looks like Register Marriage?
GRO Index: 1885 quarter 2, volume 6d, page 213:

Sorry, we cannot locate the church for this marriage. The entry is located between entries for Birmingham St Philip and Birmingham (Registrar), both in RD Birmingham.

Isaac 1871...

1871. Stew Kins? Kingswinford
Isaac Mallin, head, 62, Manager of sheet and crown glass, West Bromwich
Mary Ann, wife, 61, Lemington, Northumberland
Emily, daur, 28, Durham Southwick
Westly, son, 18, Cutter of sheet and crown glass, Smethwick


Theres this family?

1871. 2 Egypt? Nailsea, Somerset
Thomas Mallin, head, 24, Glass Cutter, Spon Lane
Emily, wife, 21,
Herbert, son, 3,
William, son, 2,
Mary, daur, 1 month
John? Sheldon, lodger 22, Glass blower, Spon Lane
Henry Asborne? 23, Glass cutter Rude End Worcestershire
Mary Knight, servant, 16 Domestic nurse
All others born Nailsea

1881. 7 Saxon Road, Bow London
Thomas Mallin, head, 34, Glass Cutter, Spon Lane
Emily, wife, 31,
Herbert, son, 14,
William, son, 11,
Mary, daur, 10,
Annie, daur, 7, Bristol
Mable, daur, 5, Smethwick
Amellia? 1, Bow, (Im wondering if this is the visitor with Thomas Shakespeare??)

1891. 52 Peel Street, Kensington, London
Thomas Mallin, head, 4? Glass Cutter, Spon Lane
Emma, wife, 37, Bow
Herbert G, son, 23? White Silverer Nailsea
Mabel, daur, 15, Smethwick
Emma, daur, 6, Hammersmith

1901. Knapp Road, Bromley London
Thomas Mallin, head, 54, Glass Cutter, Smethwall?
Emma, wife, 40 ? Button holer, Poplar
Amelia, daur, 21, Old Ford?
Emma, daur, 16, machinest *baby bibs?) Hammersmith
Percival, son, 10, Kensington
Henry, cousin, 29, Boiler Maker, Poplar
John, cousin, 22, Boiler maker, Poplar

1911. 173, Morley Riad, Barking, Essex
Thomas Mallin, head, 64, Glass Cutter, Smethwick
Emma, wife, 50, Married 29 years, 4 children 2 living, Poplar
Fred Reed, nephew, 7, Bow
Charles Reed, nephew, 8, Bow

26th March 1882. St Mary, Stratford Bow. Tower Hamlets
Thomas Mallin, Full, W, Glass Cutter, Bow, Issac Mallin, Glass Blower
Emma Amellia Reed?, Full, S, Bow, Frederick Thomas Reed, Engine Driver
Banns
Both signed
Witnesses, Charles Stevens, Harriet Reed

1851. George Street, Harborne
Isaac Mallin, head, 44, Glass Maker, West Bromwich
Mary Ann, wife, 43, Lemmington
William, son, 20, Glass Cutter
Isaac, son, 18, Glass maker
George, son, 12,
Emily, daur, 10,
Mary, daur, 6,
Thomas, son, 4, Smethwick
William, Father, W, 79, Brazier, West Bromwich
All others born Southwick, Durham

can we find that Thomas Shakespeare on earlier census to see who his parents are etc.

Only 2 possilbles I can see.

1841. Kingswinford.
Daniel Shakespeare 45. Blacksmith.
Sarah Shakespeare 45.
Daniel Shakespeare 14.
Thomas Shakespeare 12.
Susannah Shakespeare 9.
Mary Shakespeare 7.
Anthony Shakespeare 20.
Ann Shakespeare 20.
Sarah Shakespeare 8 Mo.

Name: Thos Shakespeare.
Gender: Male.
Christening Date: 22 Jun 1828.
Christening Place: BRIERLEY HILL,STAFFORD,ENGLAND .
Father's Name: Danl Shakespeare.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03392-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
GS Film number: 426499, 426500.

Or,

1841. Kingswinford.
Sarah Shakespeare 60.
Maria Shakespeare 25.
Thomas Shakespeare 10. Miner.

1851. Harts Hill, Kingswinford
Thomas Shekerpen 22. Blacksmith.
Margaret Shekerpen 28.
Joseph Shekerpen 2.
Thomas Shekerpen 1.

All born Kingswinford.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1847.
SHAKESPEAR Thomas. WILLIAMS Margaret. Wordsley, Holy Trinity. Dudley Register Office. 018/002/468.