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ARC TBC - Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:10 pm
by Margarett
This is my latest Brick Wall.Joseph Bowater was born in Rowley Regis in about 1846, son of Samuel and Sarah(nee Ruston). He married Maria Eliza Yates 2 Sept 1867 at Quinton. In December 1870 she re-married John Bird, and was a widow on the certificate. So he must have died between 1867 and December 1870. I can't find any record of his death after extensive searching.
Any ideas? Help!

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:35 pm
by Northern Lass
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =369305680


Did you find his birth?

just wondered what he was registered as.

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:35 pm
by rockyfowler
Joseph Bowater, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Joseph Bowater
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Jun 1854
Christening Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford, England
Birth Date: 04 Jan 1847
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Bowater
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Bowater
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00965-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 367784
Reference ID: p 288
Sources

Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JS65-2CM : accessed 28 Oct 2013), Joseph Bowater, 04 Jan 1847.

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:43 pm
by snoopysue
Both marriages are on ancestry. Can't find a death either - the only one that comes up is from 1st quarter 1866, so before your Joseph married! I've checked the probate records too, and burials. Generally I've not had as much luck with burials as with christenings/baptisms and marriages. I suspect the records aren't as complete.
I have found a mention in the Sheffield Daily Telegraph from 1st July 1869. It states that there was an accident at the Whiteheath Colliary near Oldbury on the 28th June, where two men were killed and several injured. It seems they were buried when a load of coal fell on them. The alarm was raised straight away, and four men were dug out. Two of the four were dead, one being a Joseph Bowater, 22, married residing at Cakemoor, a bandsman. It seems that the pit, or maybe the part where the accident was, was known as "The Pressure".

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:52 pm
by snoopysue

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:32 pm
by Margarett
Thanks. I have all the other info, it's just his death I can't find.

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:35 pm
by Margarett
Oh Snoopysue! You've found it!!!! Thank you so much! But it doesn't appear to have been registered. :cry: I wondered if it was a mining accident. Would Maria have had to show the registrar a death cert for Joseph when she re-married?

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:58 am
by rockyfowler
Marriage details not put in BCC?

Both at Christ Church Quinton

2 Sep 1867
Joseph BOWATER 21 B Miner Cakemore Father Samuel Bowater Miner
Maria YATES 21 S Cakemore Father John Yates Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Benjamin Yates X / Sarah Bowater X

26 Dec 1870
John BIRD 21 B Miner Cakemore Father John Bird Miner
Maria Eliza BOWATER 23 W Cakemore Father John Yates Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Benjamin Yates / Mary Boilstone X

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:15 pm
by snoopysue
Margarett wrote:Oh Snoopysue! You've found it!!!! Thank you so much! But it doesn't appear to have been registered. :cry: I wondered if it was a mining accident. Would Maria have had to show the registrar a death cert for Joseph when she re-married?


I wonder if it's a mistranscription as far as the death record goes.
If you'd like the certificate you could try ordering just with the info you have, if they can't find it then the GRO refund the money.

Re: Joseph Bowater

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:37 pm
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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