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I think the wives of this Samuel Hadley:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

were sisters:
Eliza Shakespeare bapt 28 March 1824, St Thomas, Dudley
Mary Shakespeare born 23 Jan 1822, bapt 17 Feb 1822, St Thomas, Dudley

Samuel Shakespeare married Elizabeth Woodhall 25 Dec 1820, Kingswinford.

Other children of Samuel & Elizabeth (all bapt St Thomas, Dudley):
William bapt 4 Jan 1829
Betsy bapt 10 Jun 1832
Samuel bapt 5 Jul 1835
Sarah Ann bapt 6 Aug 1837
Josiah born 21 Dec 1839, bapt 19 Jan 1840

I suspect the family may have been in West Bromwich, but cannot find any census entries....

I think so too so have connected up
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =765204785

Any census?

Ancestry haven't been playing with me today! And the internet is so slow!!!
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Transcribed and looks like Shacksper
1851. Newtown, Oldbury
Elizabeth Shacksper, Head, W,60, Proprietor of house, Dudley (Transcribed age as 30 but looks like 60?)
William, son, 22, Puddler
Samuel, son, 15, Puddler
Sarah, daur, 15,
Joseph, son, 11, Oldbury
All others born West Bromwich

Next door,
Samuel Hadley, head, 30, Engineer, Oldbury
Mary, wife, 29, Tipton

grangers14 wrote:Ancestry haven't been playing with me today! And the internet is so slow!!!
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Transcribed and looks like Shacksper
1851. Newtown, Oldbury
Elizabeth Shacksper, Head, W,60, Proprietor of house, Dudley (Transcribed age as 30 but looks like 60?)
William, son, 22, Puddler
Samuel, son, 15, Puddler
Sarah, daur, 15,
Joseph, son, 11, Oldbury
All others born West Bromwich

Next door,
Samuel Hadley, head, 30, Engineer, Oldbury
Mary, wife, 29, Tipton

Well spotted Jo, that's them!, but I think Joseph should be Josiah. The ages all tie in with the baptisms above.

1861 Albion St, Oldbury
Elizabeth Shakespeare, widow, 60, born Dudley
Josiah Shakespeare, son, 21, Lab at works, born Oldbury

Next door are:
John Shakespeare, head, 34, Furnaceman at Iron Works, born West Bromwich
Sarah A, wife, 33
Samuel, 9
Eliza, 6
William, 4
Mary, 2
Sarah A, 5m
Rest born Oldbury

Looks like Josiah married a Jemima:

1871, Albion Street, Oldbury
Josiah Shakespeare, 31, Millfurnace Man
Jemima, 31
Amphilias, 6
Alice, 4
Eliza J, 1
All born Oldbury

Next door (on previous page)
John Shakespeare, 44, Puddler, b West Bromwich
Sarah A, 42
William, 14
Mary, 12
Sarah, 10
Elizabeth, 7
Emma, 4
Rest born Oldbury

1881, Albion Street, Oldbury
Josiah Shakespeare, 41, Furnaceman Iron
Jemima, 42, born Salop, Clee Hill
Amplias, 16
Eliza, 11
Ann M, 7
Emily, 5
Samuel, 4
Josiah

Previous house:
Sarah A Shakespeare, Head, W, 50
William, 24, Iron Worker
Sarah A, 20
Elizabeth, 17
All born Oldbury

Jemima is a widow in 1891:

1891, Albion Street, Oldbury
Jemima Shakespeare, Head, Wid, 51, born Ludlow, Shrops
Eliza, 21, General Servant
Emily, 15, General Servant
Samuel, 14, Ironworker Millroller
Joseph, 10
Joseph Hartley, Grandson, 2
Rest born Oldbury


1901, Albion Street, Olldbury
Jemima Shakespeare, Head, Wid, 61
Annie, 26, Saucepan Morniter?
Joseph, 20, Labourer (Barley Shop)
Joseph Hartley, 12, Grandson
All born Brades Village, Oldbury

1911 - looks like Jemima is in hospital in Birmingham:
Jemima Shakespeare, 71, Widow, Patient, born Salop, Clay Hills

Marriages:
These look promising (think we need a couple of lookups)
Both from WestMidsBMD:

1861, St Thomas, Dudley
Josiah Shakespeare/ Jemima Edwards
Dudley Register Office 204/020/122

1850, All Saints, West Bromwich
John Shakespeare/ Sarah A Hadley (?is she a relative of Samuel Hadley - see first post)
Sandwell Register Office 22/5/187

Josiahs Marriage is on IGI (ODM)
2 Sept 1861 St Thomas, Dudley, ( no other details)

Possible bapt:
30 May 1830, Oldbury, Sarah Anne d of Isaac & Elizabeth Hadley (IGI - ODM)

30 May 1830 Christ Church Oldbury
Sarah Anne daur of Isaac & Elizabeth HADLEY ,Church Bridge Nr Oldbury, Engineer

2 Sep 1861 St Thomas Dudley
Josiah SHAKESPEARE F B Roller Dudley Father Samuel Shakespeare (Dec) Miner
Jemima Edwards F S Dudley Father Thomas Edwards Miner
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Nathaniel Hadley / Sarah Ann Hooper

Im sure this must be them????

1841. new Village, Oldbury
E Shakespear, 40 (female column),
M, 19, (female column)
E, 17, (female column)
J, 13 (male column) Coal Miner
Wm, 6 (male column)
W? 12 (male column) Coal Miner
S, 4 (female column)
J, 1 (male column) Born in County
All others not born in County

grangers14 wrote:Im sure this must be them????

1841. new Village, Oldbury
E Shakespear, 40 (female column),
M, 19, (female column)
E, 17, (female column)
J, 13 (male column) Coal Miner
Wm, 6 (male column)
W? 12 (male column) Coal Miner
S, 4 (female column)
J, 1 (male column) Born in County
All others not born in County

I think you're right Jo, no wonder they weren't easy to find! Looks as though Samuel died about 1840-1