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I've been looking at my Hingley ancestors and found several entries in Trade directories for Tobias Hingley including this one:
Pigot's Directory
Year: 1842
County: Stafford
Parish: Rowley Regis &c
Profession:
Chain & Trace Makers: Hingley Tobias, Cradley Heath
Taverns: Rose & Crown, Tobias Hingley, Haden Hill
Beer Seller: Hingley Tobias, Cradley Heath

Other trade directories over the years show Tobias to be at the Heath Tavern in Cradley Heath.

Googling then found the Black Country Gob where there are photos of the Rose & Crown at Haden Hill

Trouble is according to BCG Tobias' wife is called Eleanor, which is confirmed by the 1851 census, rather than Mary Ann as shown by BCC and confirmed by census entries from 1841 - 1871

There are two entries in the non-parochial Parish register records:
Register Book of Baptisms
Chapel: Park Lane Chapel
Denom: Presbyterian
Place: Cradley with Stourbridge
County: Worcester
Founded: 1796
Folio: 50
Page 91
1795.
No 141
Tobias Son of James and Mary Hingley of Furnace Lane in the Parish of Rowley in the County of Stafford Confirmed October 19th 1795

Register Book of Baptisms
Chapel: Park Lane Chapel
Denom: Presbyterian
Place: Cradley with Stourbridge
County: Worcester
Founded: 1796
Folio: 116
Page 225
1817.
No 1232
Tobias Son of James and Mary Hingley Just of the Parish of Rowley and County of Stafford September 22nd 1817

The latter one conforming to the 1851 census entry and the former to those showing Tobias to being married to Mary Ann.

So I appear to have two Tobias Hingleys both parented by James & Mary but being baptised 22 years apart.

There must be a simple answer but I can't see it, can anyone help?

there 3 tobias hingley on bcc

2 with james and mary as parents all 3 connects to linell ?

c1795

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =180477833


c 1817

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =307458212


the 1795 one is uncle to the 1817 one

and the 1862 one is granson of the 1817 one

tobias 1862


1911; 44 Garratts Lane, Old Hill, Staffs

Tobias Hingley 49 Wood sawyer
Mary Hingley 48 (married 28 years, 5 born, 3 living, 2 died)
Annie Hingley 24
Albert Hingley 19 Wood sawyer
Ernest Hingley 10
all born old hill

1901 king st, Rowley Regis

Tobias Hingley 39 labourer timber yard
Mary Hingley 38 hob nail maker
Annie Hingley 14 chainmaker
Albert Hingley 9
Ernest Hingley 4 Months
all born old hill

1891 49 cherry Orchard, Rowley regis

Eliza Lavis (lewis) 63 wid
Hagar Lavis (lewis) (s) 22 nailmaker
John Lavis (lewis) 3 g son
all RR

same address

Tobias Hingley 29 timber yard sawyer dudley
Mary Hingley 28 nailmaker
Annie Hingley 4
other RR


HINGLEY Tobias LEWIS Mary 1882 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/6/63

1881; 49 Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis

Joseph Lewis 55 Coal miner, Halesowen
Eliza Lewis 53
Sarah Lewis 30 nailmaker
Maria Lewis 21 nailmaker
Mary Lewis 18 nailmaker
Hagar Lewis 12
rest born RR


poss john and ann eliza

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =559697183

1861; Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis

Joseph Lewis 35 Coal miner, Dudley
Eliza Lewis 33 nailmaker
John Lewis 12 Coal miner
Sarah Lewis 11 nailmaker
Martha Lewis 8 nailmaker
Hever Lewis 5
Marria Lewis 2
rest born RR

looked up at archives by RF

11 june 1848

Joseph Lewis of full age bach miner Dudley John Lewis Engineer
Ann Eliza Parkes of full age spinster Dudley James Parkes nailer
Banns
X both
Wit - John Garbett X / Maria Garbett X

1851 Wrights Lane, Rowley
James Parkes 65 – Nailmaker
Mary Parkes 68 – Nailmaker
Joseph Lewis 26 - Inmate - Coalminer - b Dudley
Eliza Lewis 23 - Inmate – Nailmaker
John Lewis 2
Sarah Lewis 4 MO
others b Rowley

on john dob c 1849 this connection looks good

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =220657356

Thanks, I'd missed the nephew connection.

By the way, the link on BCC to the phancocks site on Blue Yonder is broken. I think all of the Blue Yonder sites have gone, does anyone know if that one was opened up elsewhere?

I think Blue Yonder was taken over by Virgin Media

It was, but all the Blue Yonder sites seem to have disappeared. I wondered if the owners of those sites have posted them elsewhere.

SRD wrote:Thanks, I'd missed the nephew connection.

By the way, the link on BCC to the phancocks site on Blue Yonder is broken. I think all of the Blue Yonder sites have gone, does anyone know if that one was opened up elsewhere?

Wot link there is no link on Bcc to a phanocks site
who are they anyway?

do you mean in the forum useful links?

16 Feb 1882 St Giles Rowley Regis
Tobias HINGLEY 21 B Bricklayer Old Hill Father Henry Hingley Burner
Mary Lewis 20 S Old Hill Father Joseph Lewis Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Jesse Tromans X / Hannah Nock X

Northern Lass wrote:

SRD wrote:Thanks, I'd missed the nephew connection.

By the way, the link on BCC to the phancocks site on Blue Yonder is broken. I think all of the Blue Yonder sites have gone, does anyone know if that one was opened up elsewhere?

Wot link there is no link on Bcc to a phanocks site
who are they anyway?

do you mean in the forum useful links?

Think this it Jan...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

That's the one. It's in the "Added by" section.

Thanks connected up and added
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =814691068

is this completed SRD?