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Mary Hodgkiss---Jo sorting

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:06 pm
by grangers14
From another thread we have...
1841. Delph, Kingswinford
Thomas Perry, 50, Miner
Rebecca, 52,
/Benjamin Shakespeare, 14,
/Mary Hodkiss, 9
All born in County

1851. Delph, Kingswinford
Thomas Perry, head, 67, Coal Miner
Rebecca, wife, 68, Worcestershire
Benjamin Shakespeare, Lodger, 22,
Mary Hodgkiss, Lodger, 18
All others born Kingswinford

Can we find out and if she is related to this family?

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:31 pm
by grangers14
Is this her?
Mary Anne Hodgkiss

christening: 7 April 1833 BRIERLEY HILL,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
father:James Hodgkiss
mother:Diana

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:41 pm
by grangers14
??
Her brother?
Thomas Perry Hodgkiss
christening: 26 July 1835 BRIERLEY HILL,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
death: 1 February 1837
father:James Hodgkiss
mother:Diana


Her sister?
Eliza Hodgkiss
christening: 21 February 1830 BRIERLEY HILL,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
father:James Hodgkiss
mother:Diana

?? Marriage
James Hodgkiss

marriage: 24 August 1829 Kingswinford,Stafford,England
spouse:Diana Perry


I wonder if she is Rebecca Shakespears sister or relation?

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:54 pm
by grangers14
24 August 1829. St Mary Kingswinford
James Hodgkiss otp and Diana Perry otp
Banns
Witnesses, Benjamin Wiggin, Thomas Walker

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:59 pm
by grangers14
18th October 1837. St Marys, Kingswinford
Thomas Hodgkiss of Audnam Bank, 1

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:25 pm
by grangers14
I wonder if this is James Hodgkiss on BCC?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... iss-Family

Theres a possible death for Diana,
Diana Hodgkiss Jan-Feb-Mar 1838 Stourbridge Worcestershire

And there is a big gap, 10 years, between James children?

Jo :)

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:54 pm
by sp1
grangers14 wrote:I wonder if this is James Hodgkiss on BCC?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... iss-Family

Theres a possible death for Diana,
Diana Hodgkiss Jan-Feb-Mar 1838 Stourbridge Worcestershire

And there is a big gap, 10 years, between James children?

Jo :)

Just found all those baptisms and the marriage Jo, but you beat me in posting them! - think it ties them in with the Perrys on the Benjamin Shakespeare post quite nicely.

I think you might be correct about James already being on BCC - note Eliza on 1841 census

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:49 pm
by sp1
There is a possible marriage on FreeBMD (none on WestmidsBMD):
March Qtr 1840 Bromsgrove 18 257
James Hodgkiss/ Mary Stephens

There are two later ones 1842 and 1849 in Birmingham, but these probably too late as they would have had several children by then?

Additionally, there are several possible baptisms in the right time period, but the most likely might be:
8 Dec 1805, Brierley Hill, Mary d of JEREMIAH & Mary Stevens

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:12 pm
by grangers14
So you think I may be on the right line?
Im sure Id seen something may be IGI a Clent marriage but not sure? I could try and find that and ask for a look up? Its just proving it isn't it?
beavering away in this heat! :roll:
Jo :)

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:17 pm
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:So you think I may be on the right line?
Im sure Id seen something may be IGI a Clent marriage but not sure? I could try and find that and ask for a look up? Its just proving it isn't it?
beavering away in this heat! :roll:
Jo :)


I have clent book up to 1837

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:20 pm
by sp1
Just edited post re marriage as I forgot to put year (1840) !

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:30 pm
by sp1
The marriage is on IGI twice:

First one (ODM) 29 March 1840, Clent, James Hodgkiss/ Mary Stephens

Second one ( not submitted but VR):
1840, Clent, James Hodgkiss, father Simeon Hodgkiss, and Mary Stephens, father Jeremiah Stephens

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:14 pm
by grangers14
Yep that's the one I had seen sp1!
NL can you look if you get a chance please to try and confirm!
Oh the plot thickens but slowly we will get there!
Theres a few I had seen emigrating sp1 so I will look into them around the same age I think. Mind :crazy:
Slow process but it helps eliminating...
I cant think now but I think Maggie may connect? I will check and pm her if it does, see if she knows more or may be have to get a birth cert.
Jo :)

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:18 pm
by sp1
Can't find a baptism for a James Hodgkiss with father Simeon anywhere.
But......a Simeon Hodgkiss m Lucy Pearson 7 Dec 1806 at Kingswinford ( submitted entry). Thinking this very close to James birthdate I checked if there was a bapt for James Pearson with mother Lucy, just in case he was born prior to the marriage: nothing.

There are more marriages for a Simeon Hodgkiss:
4 Jan 1835, Kingswinford, to Ann Pearson
27 Sep 1830, St Thomas, Dudley, to Esther Cooper
(Both submitted)
Either or both of these could relate to the son of Simeon and Lucy, bapt at Brierley Hill (lost the date).

Interestingly, there is a submitted burial entry 21 Jul 1843, Kingswinford for Simeon Hodgkiss b 1783 - which means he might be found in the 1841 census

Re: Mary Hodgkiss

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:49 pm
by sp1
Found Simeon in 1841, as Semon Hodgkiss, aged 55, Iron Miner

Very strange census entry: (could someone check, as I read it as all one household, ie = at top and bottom, and - in between?)
Brierley Hill
=
Elizabeth Baker, 50
Esther Baker, 20
-
William Foley, 20, Boiler Maker
John Cox, 15, Iron Miner
William Graves, 35, Boiler Maker
John Wellings, 15, Iron Miner
Semon Hodgkiss, 55, Iron Miner
William James, 40, glass Maker
Elizabeth James, 30
-
Hannah Holt, 5
Charles Stait, 30
Elizabeth Stait, 20
=

Not put born in county etc, (on phone), but this all seems to be one house?