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Posting this on behalf of someone.

They have a John Rowley b 1905 Bilston

The parents are Peter Rowley and Maria Owen

Can anyone have a look at the 1911 without purchasing anything and just via the indexes see if they can see this family please

I am getting a Peter Rowley with a John in an Institution

wonder if I am doing it correctly?

no Maria Rowley

think there is a marriage in W'ton here..

Peter Rowley

Parents:
Father: Peter Rowley for him and John Owen for her
Marriages:
Spouse: Maria Owen Family
Marriage: 24 DEC 1890 Bilston, Stafford,
Messages:
Extracted marriage record


I will look on the 1911 if someone can just check on there for me

ta

All I am getting is a Peter born 1874, and a Maria born 1875, no John with them,

Thanks Jimmy
maybe he is visiting somewhere else?

hmmm the ages on the 1911 are out
could be wrong on the transcript suppose?

I have them on the 1901 census will post later ....unless anyone else fancies doing it...and we can start to add to the tree

1901
1 Days yard Walsall St Bilston Staffs

Peter on there is b 1866
Maria is born 1869
few other kids too

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this could be a marriage for Peters father...

25 Dec 1862
Peter Rowley 23 b Keymaker Heath Samuel Rowley Keymaker
&
Cara Mattox 21 s Heath William Mattox Keymaker
B
Daniel Brotherton & Sarah Rowley
Sam.T.Sproston
Heath Town
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now this is someone that contacted me and said they would like more info and didnt know where to Start.

So if you are looking in

need to know how you know John b 1905 belongs to Peter Rowley and Maria Owen?

Do you have the birth certifi?
Do you have a marriage with fathers name on?

then we can move back with confidence from a starting point and we can guide you too

1881.
Peter ROWLEY. Head. M . Male. 48. Bilston, Stafford, Puddler In Iron Wks.
Margaret ROWLEY. Wife. M. Female. 48. Bilston, Stafford,
Maria ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female 21. Bilston, Stafford, Warehouse Woman.
John ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 19. Bilston, Stafford, Pudler In Ironworks.
Margaret ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 17. Bilston, Stafford, Japan Girl.
Peter ROWLEY.. Son. U. Male. 15. Bilston, Stafford, Mill Worker (Iron )(Labourer).
Joseph ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 12. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.
Rachel ROWLEY. Daur. . U. Female. 10. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.
Ann E. ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 7. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.
Daniel ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 2. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.

King Street 2 Rudges Bld.
Wednesfield, Stafford,

Extracted.
PETER ROWLEY.
MARGARET HERRINGTON JONES. Family
Marriage, 31 JAN 1859, Sedgley, Stafford,

1881.
Maria PERRY. Head. M. Female. 40. Bilston, Stafford, Greengrocer.
Maria OWEN. Niece. U. Female. 12. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar

Pinfold St
Bilston, Stafford,

nice one Jimmy that looks like the family that name Daniel is there on the 1901 in Peters family.
so can prob discount that marriage in 1862

The info that I have is that it is John and Peter and Maria as parents
Would like to see them on the 1911 census as a group...

The marriage in 1862 looks like these,

Peter ROWLEY. Head. M. Male. 41. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Clara ROWLEY. Wife. M. Female. 39. Wednesfield, Stafford,
William ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 21. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Julia ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 14 Wednesfield, Stafford,
Edward ROWLEY. Son. Male. 13. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Thomas ROWLEY. Son. Male. 10. Wednesfield, Stafford, Scholar.
Peter ROWLEY. Son. Male. 7. Wednesfield, Stafford, Scholar.
Samuel ROWLEY. Father. W. Male. 80. Wednesfield, Stafford, No Occupation (Key Maker).


2 Hall St.
Wednesfield, Stafford,

So could that be the one on the 1911 b 1874 with a Maria?

both might have married a Maria?

This could be why we can't find them together, the age fits.

Deaths Dec 1905.
Rowley Peter. age 39. Wolverhampton, 6b, 381.

Jimmy wrote:1881.
Peter ROWLEY. Head. M . Male. 48. Bilston, Stafford, Puddler In Iron Wks.
Margaret ROWLEY. Wife. M. Female. 48. Bilston, Stafford,
Maria ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female 21. Bilston, Stafford, Warehouse Woman.
John ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 19. Bilston, Stafford, Pudler In Ironworks.
Margaret ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 17. Bilston, Stafford, Japan Girl.
Peter ROWLEY.. Son. U. Male. 15. Bilston, Stafford, Mill Worker (Iron )(Labourer).
Joseph ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 12. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.
Rachel ROWLEY. Daur. . U. Female. 10. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.
Ann E. ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 7. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.
Daniel ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 2. Bilston, Stafford, Scholar.

King Street 2 Rudges Bld.
Wednesfield, Stafford,

This could be why we can't find them together, the age fits.

Deaths Dec 1905.
Rowley Peter. age 39. Wolverhampton, 6b, 381.

poss these are the same born c 1866

Jimmy wrote:The marriage in 1862 looks like these,

Peter ROWLEY. Head. M. Male. 41. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Clara ROWLEY. Wife. M. Female. 39. Wednesfield, Stafford,
William ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 21. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Julia ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 14 Wednesfield, Stafford,
Edward ROWLEY. Son. Male. 13. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Thomas ROWLEY. Son. Male. 10. Wednesfield, Stafford, Scholar.
Peter ROWLEY. Son. Male. 7. Wednesfield, Stafford, Scholar.
Samuel ROWLEY. Father. W. Male. 80. Wednesfield, Stafford, No Occupation (Key Maker).


2 Hall St.
Wednesfield, Stafford,

if this is 1881 census then this is more likely to be peter c 1874 who married maria

This looks like the other marriage.

Marriages Mar 1896.
CLINTON Oliver Edward. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.
Pugh Maria. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.
Rowley Peter. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.
Ryder Esther Matilda. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.

peterd wrote:

Jimmy wrote:The marriage in 1862 looks like these,

Peter ROWLEY. Head. M. Male. 41. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Clara ROWLEY. Wife. M. Female. 39. Wednesfield, Stafford,
William ROWLEY. Son. U. Male. 21. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Julia ROWLEY. Daur. U. Female. 14 Wednesfield, Stafford,
Edward ROWLEY. Son. Male. 13. Wednesfield, Stafford, Key Maker.
Thomas ROWLEY. Son. Male. 10. Wednesfield, Stafford, Scholar.
Peter ROWLEY. Son. Male. 7. Wednesfield, Stafford, Scholar.
Samuel ROWLEY. Father. W. Male. 80. Wednesfield, Stafford, No Occupation (Key Maker).


2 Hall St.
Wednesfield, Stafford,

if this is 1881 census then this is more likely to be peter c 1874 who married maria

Dont think that is rite as on the 1901 he is b 1866
that death fits b 1866
and on the 1901 he is with a Maria

"1901
1 Days yard Walsall St Bilston Staffs

Peter on there is b 1866
Maria is born 1869
few other kids too"

Jimmy wrote:This looks like the other marriage.

Marriages Mar 1896.
CLINTON Oliver Edward. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.
Pugh Maria. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.
Rowley Peter. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.
Ryder Esther Matilda. Wolverhampton. 6b. 762.

So 2 Peters marrying a Maria

the one I am after is Peter b 1866
so he is dead by 1905

so where is John and Maria on 1911...