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HALL Susan RALPH Henry Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/003/145 1861

Marriages looked up by BcWench

29 May 1859 at St John, Kates Hill
Tho’s Woodall, 20, B, Puddler, Dudley, Samuel Woodall, Puddler
Sarah Ann Smith, 26, S, Dudley, Edward Smith, Collier
Wit: Henry Ralph, Susan Hall

Is this Thomas's sister Mary??

10 Aug 1857 at St John, Kates Hill
Isaiah Bradley, 23, B, Puddler, Dudley, Deceased
Mary Woodall, 20, S, Dudley, Samuel Woodall, Puddler
Wit: Joseph Shaw, Susan Hall

I believe Susan Hall is Susan Woodall

6 Oct 1851 St Giles Rowley Regis
John HALL 20 B Puddler Springfield Father Richard Hall Occupation Cooper
Susannah WOODALL 22 S Springfield Father Samuel Woodall Puddler
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Joseph Shaw X /Sarah Shaw X

mumbles wrote:HALL Susan RALPH Henry Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/003/145 1861.

Name: Henry Ralph.
Birth Date: 1837.
Age: 24.
Spouse's Name: Susan Hall Of Hale.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1829.
Spouse's Age: 32.
Event Date: 03 Jun 1861.
Event Place: St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester, England.
Father's Name: William Ralph.
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Woodhall.
Marital Status: Single.
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00978-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
GS Film number: 1470599.
Reference ID: Item 1 p73 #145.

3 Jun 1861 St James Dudley
Henry RALPH 24 B Puddler Cawny Hill Father William Ralph Labourer
Susan HALL 32 W Washerwoman Cawny Hill Father Samuel Woodhall Puddler
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Thomas Millington X / Caroline Ralph X

Thanks Jimmy , BcWench and RF that all ties up

I think this must be Ralph Family

1841 Census Park Lane Tipton Dudley Staffs.
William Ralph 40 Boatman
Ann Ralph 45
Mary Ralph 20
Samuel Ralph 18
Ann Ralph 16
William Ralph 13
Eliza Ralph 11
Hannah Ralph 7
Henry Ralph 5
All born Staffs.

1851 Census Park Lane Tipton Dudley Staffs.
Ann Ralph Head 52 born Salop.
Eliza Ralph dau 20
Hannah Ralph dau 17
Henry Ralph 15 Labourer
Caroline Ralph dau 9
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

Caroline Ralph was witness at wedding of Henry Ralph and Susan Hall

Tree on Ancestry has Henry Ralph marrying an Emma Unknown but I think this must be wrong or a bigamous marriage ?

that looks good for Henrys father Mumbles

I have just put in father William Ralph on bcc and est dob as 1800
so change it to the about prefix would you if you think that is correct family for Henry.
Looks good as you say with Caroline being wit at marriage

How do they justify that emma Mumbles?
do they have him on census later?
or a marriage?

on 1851 he is with family and marries 3 June 1861

Where are they in 1861 are they together on census? they should be census was 7-8 april 1861

in 1871 Susan is here
1871 Census Cawney Hill Dudley Worcs.
Susan Ralph Head (m) Washer Woman born Dudley Worcs.

Can anyone find Susan Ralph or Henry RAlph in 1861
I cant see them at all

can anyone find anyone in Cawney Hill Dudley of that sort of name
or at the address she is at in 1871

she puts in 1861 that addy and is there in 1871

1861
BRADLEY, Isaiah Head Married M 25 1836 Iron Puddler
Dudley, Worcestershire
BRADLEY, Mary Wife Married F 23 1838 Nailer
Dudley, Worcestershire
BRADLEY, Joseph Son M 4 1857
Dudley, Worcestershire
BRADLEY, Susan Daughter F 0 (9M) 1861
Dudley, Worcestershire
HALL, Susan Lodger Unmarried F 32 1829 Washerwoman
Dudley, Worcestershire
RALPH John W.H. Lodger Unmarried M 25 1836 Iron Puddler Tipton Staffordshire

Cawney Hill, Dudley
Staffordshire


HALL Susan RALPH Henry Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/003/145 1861

Marriages looked up by BcWench

29 May 1859 at St John, Kates Hill
Tho’s Woodall, 20, B, Puddler, Dudley, Samuel Woodall, Puddler
Sarah Ann Smith, 26, S, Dudley, Edward Smith, Collier
Wit: Henry Ralph, Susan Hall

Is this Thomas's sister Mary??

10 Aug 1857 at St John, Kates Hill
Isaiah Bradley, 23, B, Puddler, Dudley, Deceased
Mary Woodall, 20, S, Dudley, Samuel Woodall, Puddler
Wit: Joseph Shaw, Susan Hall

I believe Susan Hall is Susan Woodall

nice one RF

Mumbles are you able to add this lot to Bcc?
if you a min?

so is Henry Ralph John WH Ralph?

Trees on Ancestry Henry Ralph marrying an Emma and living with her in 1871 but no trace of a marriage to an Emma that ties up
an Henry Ralph died Dudley 1872 which ties up with Susan Woodall/ Hall connection

can you post the 1871 census mumbles?

how do you know this is the death for Henry? looks like he is an age 6 yr old
1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
RALPH Henry Tipton Sandwell Register Office TIP/46/47

Deaths Jun 1872
RALPH Henry 6 Dudley 6c 18
RALPH Henry 6 Dudley 6c 48

There is this death

Deaths Sep 1895
RALPH John 58 Dudley 6c 18

Name: Henry Ralph
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Jul 1836
Christening Place: TIPTON,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Ralph
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01009-4
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 435872, 435873, 435874
Reference ID:


so bapt as a Henry wonder why down as John on 1861

Another John Ralph??
29 Mar 1863 St James Dudley
John RALPH 22 B Puddler Tipton Father John Ralph Boatman
Mary Ann THATCHER 21 S Tipton Father William Thatcher Boiler Maker
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; E. Griffith X / L. Cox X

1871
RALPH, John Head M 33 1838 Puddler Tipton Staffordshire
RALPH, Mary Ann Wife F 28 1843 Worcestershire
RALPH, William H Son M 5 1866 Staffordshire
RALPH, John Thos Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire

Albert Street Princes End, Sedgley

Staffordshire