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*Completed* -Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:08 pm
by Carol
Wondered if anyone could help fill in this long outstanding gap in my tree

My 4xGtGrandfather Joseph Bate was born 1792 in Tipton and Christened at St Martins Tipton
He married Elizabeth ?
estimated date 1808 to 1813 and most likely dates 1810-1812-best guess 1812
First child arrived April 1813 and went on to have loads more all christened at Tipton St Martin - no need to reseach children as I've flogged this to death so to speak

but the marriage has eluded me
It could perhaps have taken place at Dudley St Thomas as other close family connections around this time taken place here
Any help much appreciated

If anyone has Tipton St Martins register I don't think there is any point in checking that as several pairs of eyes have been through that before and 99.9999% sure its not there

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:21 pm
by peterd
bcc link

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =820397197


siblings of joseph bates

Parent isaac and Mary


EDWARD BATE
Birth: 24 JUN 1800
Christening: 20 JUL 1800 Tipton, Stafford, England

MARY BATE
Christening: 29 NOV 1795 Tipton, Stafford, England

PHEBE BATE
Birth: 17 NOV 1802
Christening: 20 MAR 1803 Tipton, Stafford, England

ISAAC BATE
Christening: 28 APR 1805 Tipton, Stafford, England

ABRAHAM BATE
Christening: 12 MAR 1809 Tipton, Stafford, England

JOSEPH BATE
Christening: 25 NOV 1792 Tipton, Stafford, England

JOHN BATE
Christening: 27 MAY 1798 Tipton, Stafford, England

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:34 pm
by peterd
this one clent

extracted

JOSEPH BATE
ELIZABETH DAVIES
Marriage: 19 JAN 1807 Clent, Worcester, England

one in shropsire

JOSEPH BATE
ELIZABETH VENABLES
Marriage: 31 DEC 1810 Market Drayton, Shropshire,



and this submitted one birth could be wrong

Joseph Bates
Birth: About 1782 Of, Walsall, Stafford,

Elizabeth Bickley
License: 03 JAN 1807 St Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford,

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:37 pm
by Jimmy
Possible, extracted.

JOSEPH BATE.
ELIZABETH DAVIES.
Marriage, 19 JAN 1807, Clent, Worcester,

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:50 pm
by Carol
Hi Peter and Jimmy-wow amazed at your quick responses yet again.

Thanks for all those sibblings Peter. The only one I had was Mary who we discussed on a different thread.
I don't think any of the marriages you found peter feel right. The one that jimmy found to is a possibility at Clent although I would be more convinced if it were Dudley . Is Clent near to Tipton? I know it was the mother church or Rowley Regis but St Giles would have been in use around 1810 anyway and I can't see why they would have wandered that far so early on.

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:05 pm
by Carol
I also feel 1810 is a little early, considering they had so many children in total it seems unlikely they would have waited 2 years before having their first child.

Looking at dates I can also elinminate the Clent one as Joseph would only have been 15 in 1807.

What I really need is 1812 at Dudley-that is the challenge!

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:20 pm
by Northern Lass
Clent info

19 Jan 1807
Joseph Bate- bach- otp with Rowley Regis and
Elizabeth Davies- spr ots
banns
Wit - John Perks / Jephthah Craddock

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:09 am
by Carol
Could I add this one for a look up please-
Joseph Bate to Elizabeth?
Most likely place I can think of of is
Dudley , St Thomas
earleist possible 1810, latest possibly April 1813
Most likely around early 1812
Place of birth for Joseph Bate-Tipton

Thanks

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:01 pm
by Carol
Cousin Liz has just reminded me we did find this marriage after a great deal of work last year but my notes are all over the place and I forgot when NL first asked about Joseph and Elizabeth . Just for the records we found 10/02/12 St Gile RR marriage to Elizabeth Mills .

Thanks for your help- please archive now

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:58 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi Carol

just looked on Connections any chance you could fill in the gaps with this family cos we seem to have some gaping holes

if you can put the marriage on and anything else that would be cool

:wink:

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:05 pm
by Carol
Hi Nl,

yes I will have a go - but don't think I'd better do it tonight or I shall be re writing history- Liz probably thinks I'm completely potty as forgot about finding this one last year-brain frazzled with overwork at the moment I'm afraid

Re: Joseph Bate and Elizabeth marriage c1810-12

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:11 pm
by Northern Lass
Carol wrote:Hi Nl,

yes I will have a go - but don't think I'd better do it tonight or I shall be re writing history- Liz probably thinks I'm completely potty as forgot about finding this one last year-brain frazzled with overwork at the moment I'm afraid


thanks Carol that would be a big help

think my brain is frazzled too!
:shock:

time for some easy listening music

will archive this now
:wink: