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Please can anyone help

The Fulleylove family lived at about 15 High Street Netherton for a while I have managed to track them down in all but the 1881 census but with all sorts of strange spellings for the surname

James b. Bulkington 1837-- may or may not be with them -- he is more elusive than the rest
Harriett Helen b 1843 Wolverhampton nee Groom was the matriarch and is mentioned in numerous directories as Chemist and Druggist -- hence I know the address

children I know are
George Ernest b 1873 Netherton
Clara Jane b 1875 Netherton
Mary Isabel b 1877 b Dudley

There may be an older daughter but only have possible initials CS b 1872 -- from 1891 census

I am particularly intrigued by this family for a variety of reasons -- but mainly that as I wandered through records in a not very strict way that would annoy purists intensely but gives me the fun of the chase -- I started from my parents being born in Old Hill and after many marriages and visiting many parts of the country I found myself back in Netherton with a family that has a very obvious matriarch.

It is also annoying me that I cannot work out what they have been transcribed as on Ancestry -- given that it has managed -- Fulleztone and other variations beginning with T -- not to mention Hudes -- which was a complete misconnection with the previous household!! Neither can I find the street via FMP -- to try going that way.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Maths girl

Name: Clara J. Fullaylar
Birth: abt 1875 - Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Residence: 1881 - Lower Penn, Staffordshire, England

but searching on the surname gives no others

Address: Castlecroft
Event Place: Lower Penn, Staffordshire,
GS Film number: 1341668
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2791 / 136
Page Number: 14
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Thomas Pitts M 27 Wombourn, Staffordshire, England
Sister Harriett Pitts F 34 Wolverley, Worcestershire, England
Cousin Clara J Fullaylar F 6 Netherton, Worcestershire, England

The rest?
Address: 13 High St
Event Place: Dudley (Worcs), Staffordshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341691
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2881 / 36
Page Number: 17
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Harriet H Fullerton (?) F 38 Whampton, Staffordshire, England
Son George E Fullerton (?) M 7 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Daughter Mary O Fullerton (?) F 4 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Sister Elisabeth Groom F 33 Whampton, Staffordshire, England
Servant Mary E Rolinson (?) F 19 Netherton, Worcestershire, England

James' deathe maybe?

Deaths Dec 1878
FULLEYLOVE James 42 Dudley 6c 84

gardener wrote:The rest?
Address: 13 High St
Event Place: Dudley (Worcs), Staffordshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341691
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2881 / 36
Page Number: 17
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Harriet H Fullerton (?) F 38 Whampton, Staffordshire, England
Son George E Fullerton (?) M 7 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Daughter Mary O Fullerton (?) F 4 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Sister Elisabeth Groom F 33 Whampton, Staffordshire, England
Servant Mary E Rolinson (?) F 19 Netherton, Worcestershire, England

That is them -- THANK YOU -- I said no-one could spell their name!! -- Groom was her maiden name -- but Elisabeth was particularly difficult to track as she is visiting different people on every census!

I will follow up Clara Jane too as I don't recognise the Pitts surname -- obviously not got that far yet

Thank you again

Maths girl

A Few Baptisms
11 Jul 1866 St Andrew (Netherton) ?? child of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Druggist

29 Mar 1867 St Andrew Netherton Louisa Daur of James & ? FULLYLOVE from Netherton Father`s Occupation Chemist (Needs to be checked for mother`s name at Archives)

13 Dec 1871 St Andrew Netherton Eleanor Spencer Daur of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Druggist

8 May 1875 St Andrew Netherton George Ernest Son of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Chemist & Druggist

23 May 1877 St Andrew Netherton Mary Isabel Daur of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Chemist

7 Nov 1877 St Andrew Netherton William Spencer Son Of William & Martha Oakes FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Chemist

Burial

14 Nov 1878 St Andrew Netherton James FULLEYLOVE Netherton age 42 yrs

gardener wrote:The rest?
Address: 13 High St
Event Place: Dudley (Worcs), Staffordshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341691
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2881 / 36
Page Number: 17
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Harriet H Fullerton (?) F 38 Whampton, Staffordshire, England
Son George E Fullerton (?) M 7 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Daughter Mary O Fullerton (?) F 4 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Sister Elisabeth Groom F 33 Whampton, Staffordshire, England
Servant Mary E Rolinson (?) F 19 Netherton, Worcestershire, England

My next question then is who is CS born 1872 and only appears on this census in 1891 --it is not George E as he is not only male but in Hampshire in 1891.

1881 16, High Street, Dudley
FULLEYLOVE, H H Wife Widow F 48 1843 Chemist Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
FULLEYLOVE, C S Daughter Single F 19 1872 Netherton, Worcestershire
FULLEYLOVE, C J Daughter Single F 16 1875 Netherton, Worcestershire
FULLEYLOVE, M J Daughter Single F 14 1877 Netherton, Worcestershire
KNEAL, W J R Visitor Single F 14 1877 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

Any suggestions?

rockyfowler wrote:A Few Baptisms
13 Dec 1871 St Andrew Netherton Eleanor Spencer Daur of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Druggist

8 May 1875 St Andrew Netherton George Ernest Son of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Chemist & Druggist

23 May 1877 St Andrew Netherton Mary Isabel Daur of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Chemist

7 Nov 1877 St Andrew Netherton William Spencer Son Of William & Martha Oakes FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Chemist

Thank you RF -- Eleanor Spencer gives the probably birth - off I go to track her down from birth to 1891 and beyond.

MG

Maths girl wrote:

rockyfowler wrote:A Few Baptisms
13 Dec 1871 St Andrew Netherton Eleanor Spencer Daur of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Druggist

Thank you RF -- Eleanor Spencer gives the probably birth - off I go to track her down from birth to 1891 and beyond.

MG

She appears to have married in 1896 and gone to Canada

Maths girl wrote:

Maths girl wrote:

rockyfowler wrote:A Few Baptisms
13 Dec 1871 St Andrew Netherton Eleanor Spencer Daur of James & Harriet Helen FULLEYLOVE From Netherton Father`s occupation Druggist

Thank you RF -- Eleanor Spencer gives the probably birth - off I go to track her down from birth to 1891 and beyond.

MG

She appears to have married in 1896 and gone to Canada

Got her with Grandparents in 1881 -- Tollylove!!! also explains why I couldn't find Grandparents -- Groom has become Green on transcription!!

1 Jan 1896 St Andrew Netherton
William FULLEYLOVE 55 W Chemist & Druggist 35 Halesowen Rd Father William Fulleylove (Dec) Ribbon Maker
Sarah Jane PARTRIDGE 44 S 114 The Knowle Rowley Father Samuel Partridge (Dec) Brick Maker
Wit; Samuel Bubus? / Fanny Tryphena Underwood

rockyfowler wrote:1 Jan 1896 St Andrew Netherton
William FULLEYLOVE 55 W Chemist & Druggist 35 Halesowen Rd Father William Fulleylove (Dec) Ribbon Maker
Sarah Jane PARTRIDGE 44 S 114 The Knowle Rowley Father Samuel Partridge (Dec) Brick Maker
Wit; Samuel Bubus? / Fanny Tryphena Underwood

Yes have had my eye on this William -- but not found a way of linking him in yet ---

More Burials

18 Jul 1866 St Andrew Netherton James Groom FULLEYLOVE Netherton age 17 days

29 Mar 1867 St Andrew Netherton Louisa FULLEYLOVE Netherton age 18 hours

rockyfowler wrote:More Burials

18 Jul 1866 St Andrew Netherton James Groom FULLEYLOVE Netherton age 17 days

29 Mar 1867 St Andrew Netherton Louisa FULLEYLOVE Netherton age 18 hours

That fits with the 1911 census -- Thank you