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Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:31 pm
by mallosa
Article this week In the Black Country Bugle....

http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News ... 72013.htm#

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:48 am
by dudleytaylor
Read about this via Facebook , is this the churchyard that Peterd told us about some time ago . :-)

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:16 am
by mjay
Bit like St Marks Church Tipton, all the grounds are over grown
Residents and friends of Tipton have got together to set up St Marks task force. Doing a great job Can now see graves and headstones.
Requests on Facebook looking for volunteers and equipment.

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:12 pm
by peterd
dudleytaylor wrote:Read about this via Facebook , is this the churchyard that Peterd told us about some time ago . :-)




yep it is when to see if i could get in it last weekend but someone has erected a new fence ? so someone must be responcible for it

came across it in the late 2000 went to check it out first bcc do 2010


and as for blowers green road is concern dudley council got nothing to brag about by dumping people headstones at the backwall and burying them got the picture to prove it

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:25 pm
by peterd
blowers green rd formley st thomas graveyard


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rather than dig all the headstone out thats poss buried there they will destroy them or cover the rest up

some of them must cost thousands of pound in todays money if you wanted to replace them, but hey what does it matter proberly none of dudley councilors families are there so why should they bother ? its easier to destroy the headstones and just cut grass

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:34 pm
by peterd
what should be done with king st cemertary is the headstone should be put around the perimiter and the middle grassed with a few benches placed in there for a quite place for locals to sit and the obligatory camera to stop the kids vandalising it

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:32 pm
by snoopysue
In the town next to ours in Denmark, they've transformed an old cemetary into a local park. It was already being used as one so now they've redone it and moved all the gravestones to one part and landscaped the rest. There are several prominent former residents that were buried there, so it was a foregone conclusion that the stones would be saved.

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Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:58 pm
by grangers14
Shame :(

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:58 pm
by dudleytaylor
All respect seems to be non consistent , society seems no longer to have any ethics . :roll: :(

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:19 pm
by BC Wench
I don't believe this to be the responsibility of Dudley Council. Dudley Council looks after the public cemeteries.

When you get graves in a churchyard, that is the responsibility of the Church concerned to care for the work within the grounds. It is the responsibility of family members to care for the headstones. For instance, St John's Church, Kates Hill, they have volunteers to clean up the churchyard there. St. Andrew's, Netherton also clean up their own churchyard. Some of the headstones which were in the churchyard of St James Church, Dudley were put around the walls just opposite the church on the corner of St James Road and The Parade.

As for the graveyard in King Street, this could have been the graveyard of a non-conformist chapel, so where does the responsibilty lie for the maintenance when the chapel has been demolished?

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:08 pm
by peterd
Blower green Rd

If you read the passage in the bugle Dudley MC took responsibility for the site in 1952 or am I reading it wrong

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:21 pm
by BC Wench
I was referring to Mally's original post re King Street Graveyard. I obviously read the Bugle article as I wouldn't have been able to comment on it.

It's a mine field of rules and regulations regarding the taking over of a burial ground by a County Council from a Church. Perhaps you could write to Dudley MBC to find a solution.

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:06 pm
by Northern Lass
BC Wench wrote:I was referring to Mally's original post re King Street Graveyard. I obviously read the Bugle article as I wouldn't have been able to comment on it.

It's a mine field of rules and regulations regarding the taking over of a burial ground by a County Council from a Church. Perhaps you could write to Dudley MBC to find a solution.



Barb do you know if there were MI's for this church/graveyard?

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:04 pm
by grangers14
BC Wench wrote:I was referring to Mally's original post re King Street Graveyard. I obviously read the Bugle article as I wouldn't have been able to comment on it.

It's a mine field of rules and regulations regarding the taking over of a burial ground by a County Council from a Church. Perhaps you could write to Dudley MBC to find a solution.


We dont have a "like" button but I would if I could!

Not in the area but I know of others that have been changed, and developed. Some very old that excavation carried out too. Seems so sad!
Jo :)

Re: Dudley’s hidden graveyard

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:55 pm
by BC Wench
Northern Lass wrote:
BC Wench wrote:I was referring to Mally's original post re King Street Graveyard. I obviously read the Bugle article as I wouldn't have been able to comment on it.

It's a mine field of rules and regulations regarding the taking over of a burial ground by a County Council from a Church. Perhaps you could write to Dudley MBC to find a solution.



Barb do you know if there were MI's for this church/graveyard?


From the handlist I've got NL for Dudley Archives, there used to be King Street Independent Chapel with burials/internments 1840-1933, but I don't know about MI's sorry.