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*Completed* Joseph Taylor b1832 R/Regis

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:07 pm
by mallosa
On the 1871 Census it shows Elizebeth Snorton? 66 Mother In Law - who is she?

Joseph Taylor and family


Ahh! Here she is in 1861..

1861: Gadds Green (Private) Methodist Chapel, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Moreton 56 Head (can't make out if it says U or W) Nailer
Edward Moreton 16 Son U Coalminer

next door:
Joseph Taylor 29 Head Coalminer
Mary A Taylor 31 Wife Nailer

Hannah Taylor 7 Dau
Elizabeth Taylor 11 Dau
Sarah Taylor 1 Mo Dau

all born R/Regis


Marriage 1851
TAYLOR Joseph MORETON Mary A Dudley, St Thomas 204/018/393

Re: Joseph Taylor b1832 R/Regis

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:43 pm
by mallosa
In 1861, the ages of children and Joseph's change of occupation bothers me :?

what do we think?

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:00 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok Mally have done the marriage look up for Joseph Taylor and Mary ann Moreton
it checks out nicely
and....

was able to join Thomas father up ( one of margarets) with the ones you already had on!


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =351116366


not sure if we have 2 Marys in the family though
so that needs to be checked
ie we got a Mary b 1829
and then Mary ann b 1833

are they one and the same

anyone find this family on earlier census
Thomas apparently dies 1836
so it will be just Elizabeth

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:38 pm
by peterd
this on eve

Eve Morton
Christening: 16 MAR 1845 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Mother: Elizabeth Morton


this is extracted

EVE MORETON
JOSHUA TAYLOR
Marriage: 18 DEC 1859 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


1881 5 Gadds Green Rowley Regis, Stafford


Josuah TAYLOR 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer At Quarry
Eve TAYLOR 39 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Fanny TAYLOR 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Mary TAYLOR 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Selina TAYLOR 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, General Serv (Domestic)
George TAYLOR 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Stone Breaker
Elizabeth TAYLOR 12 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Emila TAYLOR 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Samuel TAYLOR 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah Ann TAYLOR 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Nelly TAYLOR 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Edith TAYLOR Grand Daur 7 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:42 pm
by peterd
next door

1881 4 Gadds Green Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Thomas HILL 29 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Curb Stone Dresser
Mary HILL 28 Dudley, Worcester,
Edward HILL 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Cicily HILL 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
John HILL 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Joseph HILL 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Phillis TAYLOR Lodger U 76 Rowley Regis, Stafford, No Occupation

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:56 pm
by Northern Lass
peterd wrote:this on eve

Eve Morton
Christening: 16 MAR 1845 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Mother: Elizabeth Morton


this is extracted

EVE MORETON
JOSHUA TAYLOR
Marriage: 18 DEC 1859 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


1881 5 Gadds Green Rowley Regis, Stafford


Josuah TAYLOR 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer At Quarry
Eve TAYLOR 39 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Fanny TAYLOR 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Mary TAYLOR 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Selina TAYLOR 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, General Serv (Domestic)
George TAYLOR 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Stone Breaker
Elizabeth TAYLOR 12 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Emila TAYLOR 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Samuel TAYLOR 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah Ann TAYLOR 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Nelly TAYLOR 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Edith TAYLOR Grand Daur 7 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,


so that has got to be his brother and of course her 1/2 sister....

cos he is the witness on Josephs marriage

can we find a Joseph and Joshua on a census together with father Samuel...and hopefully find the mothers name then

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =583445361

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:18 pm
by mallosa
peterd wrote:
this is extracted

EVE MORETON
JOSHUA TAYLOR
Marriage: 18 DEC 1859 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,



Marriage 1859
MORETON Eve TAYLOR Joshua Dudley, St Thomas 204/018/392

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:05 pm
by Northern Lass
Trying to find couple of things with this lot

1. are there 2 Marys for Elizabeth
ie Mary b 1829 and Mary Ann b 1833

footnote...sorted this now...one is maria and one ismary ann...tree updated

2. are Joseph Taylor and Joshua Taylor bros
dont think they are

think Phillis is wife of Samuel...and mother of Joseph

1851 census Gadds Green Rowley Regis

Joseph b 1831
Joshua b 1840

:?

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:09 pm
by Northern Lass
JOSEPH TAYLOR Christening: 12 AUG 1832 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father: SAMUEL TAYLOR Mother: PHILLIS

Extracted birth

ok she is his mother

so need a marriage

and other kids

and so who does that Joshua Taylor belong to?

got look up on marriage to do for that couple

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:40 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:JOSEPH TAYLOR Christening: 12 AUG 1832 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father: SAMUEL TAYLOR Mother: PHILLIS

Extracted birth

ok she is his mother

so need a marriage

and other kids

and so who does that Joshua Taylor belong to?

got look up on marriage to do for that couple



note there a phillis taylor living with thomas hill next door to Joshua and eve taylor in 1881

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:51 pm
by Northern Lass
Yes that is where I picked it up from :wink:

I have updated the tree
but cant see Joshua as a son

and need a marriage for Phillis and Samuel

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:57 pm
by suki
I notice on the 16/3/1845 Eve 3 years of Elizabeth Morton Gads Green same day christening Joshua age 6years of John and Mary Taylor Village nailer and Edward of Elizabeth Morton Gadds yard does this help from transcripts Parish Records

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:13 pm
by Northern Lass
suki wrote:I notice on the 16/3/1845 Eve 3 years of Elizabeth Morton Gads Green same day christening Joshua age 6years of John and Mary Taylor Village nailer and Edward of Elizabeth Morton Gadds yard does this help from transcripts Parish Records


thanks Suki

could well do

so parents for Joshua could be a John and Mary from RR

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:49 pm
by Northern Lass
On Ances trees someone has got Phillis Whitehall as married to John taylor
I dont think that is quite right.

On the 1851 She is with I presume her parents
here....

1851 Census Gadds Green Rowley Regis
Joseph Whitehall h m 69 nailforger b RR
Sarah Whitehall wife 77 nailforger b RR
Phillis Taylor Inmate widow 46 nail forger b RR
Joseph Taylor Inmate u 18 Coalminer b RR
Samuel Taylor son 16 Coalminer b RR
William Taylor son 14 nail forger b RR

On the 1861 she is next door to....
it says
Joseph and Eve Taylor so that must be Joshua and Eve
and their dau Fanny (Francis)

then next hse hold
Sarah Whittall H wid 90 Pauper b RR
Phillis Taylor h unm 46 nailer b RR
Joseph Taylor son unm 28 b rr

this is confusing

Joseph unmarried should be married to Mary Ann Moreton sister of Eve
but he isnt
so is that bapt for Samuel and Phillis for a Joshua and not Joseph
Christening
12 Aug 1832
St Thomas Dudley parents samuel and Phillis Taylor

on the 1851 there is a John Taylor with Joshua and he is a widower
RRegis think it said the village

both Joseph TAylor (b 1832) and Josua Taylor( b 1839)
marry 18 Dec 1859 St Thomas Dudley to 2 Moreton sisters

1859
MORETON Eve TAYLOR Joshua Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/018/392
MORETON Mary A TAYLOR Joseph Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/018/393



Josephs father on marriage is a Samuel

somat aint rite...

help!!

Re: Joseph Taylor b1861 R/Regis

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:43 pm
by peterd
1859
MORETON Eve TAYLOR Joshua Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/018/392
MORETON Mary A TAYLOR Joseph Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/018/393



well there either brothers or sister or cousins as entries follow each other 392 and 393 married together ?

look up will sort it out ?