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Can we find him on census pls want to find his line going back

I think he is born 1847 Hartshill Worcs.

1911 he is on census puts Hartshill
could someone post that pls.

I think his father is a John

not a James

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =224741764

1861. ? Dudley.
John Grove 47. ? water. Dudley.
Diannah Grove 45. Bromsgrove.
Noah Grove 13. Harshill, Worcestershire.
William Grove 6. Worcestershire.

The one with father James born Cradley,
1851. Windmills Hill, Cradley.
James Grove 47. Nail maker.
Jane Grove 44.
William Grove 17. Son.
Eli Grove 11. Son.
Martha Grove 9. Dau.
Noah Grove 6. Son.
Mary Grove 3. Dau.

All born Cradley, Worcestershire.

Noah Grove.
Christening Date: 14 Nov 1847.
Christening Place: Dudley, Worcester.
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1847.
Father's Name: John Grove.
Mother's Name: Dinah Grove.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00852-7.
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 367951.
Reference ID: p 43.

John Grove.
Spouse's Name: Dinah Jones.
Event Date: 29 Mar 1843.
Event Place: Saint Martin,Birmingham,Warwick.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01072-4.
System Origin: England-ODM.
GS Film number: 0919783-0919785, 0919786-0919788, 0919789-0919791.

1851. Harts hill, Dudley.
John Groves 37. Can't make out occupation. Dudley.
Diana Groves 36. Bromsgrove.
Thomas Groves 15. Son. Bilstone.
Naah Groves 13. Son. 3 on image.

1911. 26 Bell Rd, Netherton, Dudley.
Noak Grove 63. Stationary engine driver. Harts Hill Nr Dudley, Worcestershire.
Jane Grove 59. Ludlow.
Minnie Grove 21. Dau. Tailoress. Netherton.
Fred Grove 16. Son. Drapers asssistant. Netherton.

Married 42 years. 10 children born 1 died.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1869.
GROVE Noah. SMITH Jane. Lower Gornal, St James. Dudley Register Office. 215/003/37.

Noah Grove.
Birth Date: 1847.
Age: 22.
Spouse's Name: Jane Smith.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1850.
Spouse's Age: 19.
Event Date: 07 Nov 1869.
Event Place: Sedgley Parish, Lower Gornall, Stafford.
Father's Name: John Grove.
Spouse's Father's Name: John Smith.
Marital Status: Single.
Spouse's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01471-0.
System Origin: England-EASy.
GS Film number: 1470604.
Reference ID: it1, p19.

thanks

Dinah Jones was not connected to Noah diff family
Best RF x

1841
PERRY, William M 25 1816 Staffordshire
PERRY, Ziprah F 30 1811 Staffordshire
GROVE, John M 20 1821 Staffordshire
GROVE, Diana F 30 1811 Staffordshire
GROVE, Thomas M 2 1839 Staffordshire
Brockmoore, Kingswinford
Staffordshire

Poss?
Name: John Grove
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Dianah Steadman
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 02 Nov 1835
Event Place: Sedgley,Stafford,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00998-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0873645 IT 1, 421588, 421589, 435837, 435838, 435839, 435840

Son Thomas was born in Bilston?



Re: Noah Grove b 1847

Postby Jimmy » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:15 am
1851. Harts hill, Dudley.
John Groves 37. Can't make out occupation. Dudley.
Diana Groves 36. Bromsgrove.
Thomas Groves 15. Son. Bilstone.
Naah Groves 13. Son. 3 on image.
Jimmy.

So the Dinah mother of Noah you are saying is not Dinah Jones but Steadman?

how can we be sure?

need marriage info?

This is the John Married at St Martin ---in 1851 census He was a Gardener the same as his father John
This is Dinah Jones
GROVE, John Head Married M 37 1814 Gardener & Seeds Man
Bristol, Somerset
GROVE, Dinah Wife Married F 30 1821
Bromsgrove, Worcestershire
GROVE, Sarah Daughter F 6 1845
Bromsgrove, Worcestershire
GROVE, John Son M 1 1850
Bromsgrove, Worcestershire
Address: Strand, Bromsgrove
County: Worcestershire

completed with thanks