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"Complete"Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:28 pm
by mumbles
Not seen this before :-
John Thomas Parsons
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =992481572

Married Abigail Hill Stourbridge Register Office 1878

But is shown as living with parents single in 1881

1881 Census Pedmore Road Lye Stourbridge Worcester
John Parsons Head 57 Bricklayers Labourer
Drucilla Parsons Wife 52
Henry Parsons son 29 Horse Driver
John T. Parsons son 22 Clay Miner
Joseph Parsons son 16 Spade Maker
Mary Parsons dau 10 Scholar
All born Lye Worcs.

Whilst his wife and son are with her parents
1881 Census Boucher The Lye Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Hill Head 46 Spade Maker
Ann Hill 46 born The Waden Worcs.
Mary Hill dau 19
Joseph Hill son 22 Spade Maker
Mathew Hill son 17 Spade Maker
Benjamin Hill son 15
John Henry Hill son 8 Scholar
William Hill son 4 Scholar born Lye Worcs.
Abigail Parson dau 25 (m)
John Thomas Parson grd.son 2 born Staffs.
Rest born Quarry Bank Staffs.

What is even stranger is that son John Thomas Parsons reverts to John T.P. Hill in 1901 before reverting to Parsons again in 1911

Re: Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:38 pm
by Antie Em
I have someone in my family in the 1950's who married his girlfriend, but her father wouldn't let them live together. They are apart for four years on the electoral register.

Re: Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:19 pm
by rockyfowler
2 Aug 1897 St Edith Polesworth
John Thomas PARSONS 38 W Miner Polesworth Father John Parsons (Dec) Labourer
Mercy Ann MOSS 31 S Polesworth Father John Moss (Dec) Laborer
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; George Moss / Kate Emily Moss

Re: Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:39 pm
by mumbles
Thanks RF I will add that in

Re: Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:12 pm
by gardener
It might not be odd.
Is it possible that John Thomas was born just before the marriage? So his surname was open to confusion. The census only shows where people were on one night and perhaps his mother was expecting a second baby and had gone hope to her mother for a while. Meanwhile John Thomas snr was at his parents. Come the 1891 they are all together and on BCC it says John T H Parsons where the H is perhaps a way of sticking in his Hill name.

Re: Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:34 pm
by mumbles
Marriage was in 1878 three years before 1881 Census when they live apart

Re: Married or Not Married ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:30 pm
by gardener
mumbles wrote:Marriage was in 1878 three years before 1881 Census when they live apart


Yes I know. What I am suggesting is that they may just not have been in the same house on the night of the 1881 census. They are together in 1891 aren't they?
The census is a snapshot. Perhaps Abigail went home to help her mother out? Her mother could have been sick and been unable to care for her family. Or Abigail herself could have been tired from a second pregnancy and went home to mum while her husband went to his parents. Or the young couple could have been between rentals and so split up for a few days while a new home was sorted out. There are heaps of reasons why they may have been apart. I know that John is down as unmarried in 1881 but given that his father would have filled in the census form that means nothing. My father was doing well if he could remember which year I was born!