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*To be archived 24hrs*Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:07 am
by Northern Lass
I have just found my nana on the 1911 Census waited ages to get this.

She is a Laura Simpson age 3 born Gateshead.

I didnt know her fathers name we thought it was Oram at first....but it wasn't .....we heard via family members it was a Danny someone...but had to wait until the 1911 census for Northumberland/Tyne and wear.

Anyway found em and would like to know more on Daniel will transcribe it tomoz
but he is age 29 from Berwick on tweed
think this is him

Births Mar 1882
Simpson Daniel Berwick 10b 367

I can't see a marriage for him and Amy Beatrice Maud Bell or Maud as she is known on the 1911 census age 31 born Lazonby cumbria.
Prev married to a William Oram he disappeared we believe to America.

So I have all the info on the Bells and not bothered about the Orams.

Going to get the birth certif think for Laura simpson

but would like to know more about him and his family.
difficult if no marriage ....I dont think they married
but anything about him or what happened to Amy /Maud would be good.

The confusing thing is amy beatrice maud bell also had a sister called Maud apparently....I haven't done my fathers side another member of the family has done that ....so would like to see a census with the Bell sisters on if possible...and just check there is Maud as a sister
:shock:

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:05 am
by FarSide
Poss
1871
14 Pandon Bank, All Saints, Newcastle
Daniel Simpson 21 - Boot and Shoe maker
Hannah Simpson 22
George Simpson 1
all b North, Berwick-Upon-Tweed

1881
9 Hatters lane, Berwick on Tweed
Daniel Simpson 32 - Lab gen
Hannah Simpson 32
George Simpson 11
Catherine Simpson 2
all b Berwick

1891
102
Hatters lane, Berwick on Tweed
Daniel Simpson 39 - Widow - General Labourer - b Durham
Catherine Simpson 12
Daniel Simpson 10
others b Berwick

1901
23 Mansfield Street, Gateshead
Henry Simpson 43 - Locomotive engine driver - b Berswick on tweed
Isabella Simpson 43 - b Rothram? York
Catherine Simpson 20 - Domestic servant - b Durham, Gateshead
Daniel Simpson 18 - Nephew - Iron f moudler - b Berswick on tweed
Henry Simpson 16 - Nephew - Iron turner fitter
Isabella Simpson 16 - Servant Domestic
Elizabeth Simpson 14 - Machinist tailors
Robert Simpson 12
Ann Simpson 11
John Simpson 9
Mary Simpson 7
Daniel Simpson 5
others b Gateshead

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:58 am
by peterd
poss daniel and hannah lied on 1871 census as this is the only one i could find


Marriages Sep 1871

SIMPSON Daniel Newcastle T 10b 221
Wastle Hannah Newcastle T. 10b 221



1871 WASTLE Hannah
Marriage venue - Church unknown

1871 SIMPSON Daniel
Marriage venue - Church unknown

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:06 am
by peterd
1881 68 Peareth St Gateshead, Durham

Henry SIMPSON 23 Berwick, Northumberland, General Laborer
Isabella SIMPSON 28 York, York,
Catherine Ann SIMPSON 4 m Gateshead, Durham,
Robert SIMPSON Uncle 17 Berwick, Northumberland, Apprentice Cooper

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:19 am
by peterd
Lazonby Cumbria is about 5 mile from Penrith

poss

1881 12 Little Dockray Penrith, Cumberland,



Elizabeth HOWSON Head W Female 65 Blencowe, Cumberland, England
Mary Ann JACKSON Daur M Female 39 Skelton, Cumberland, England Domestic Servant
John HOWSON Son U Male 24 Penrith, Cumberland, England Coachbuilder
Elizabeth JACKSON Grand Daur Female 9 Penrith, Cumberland, England Scholar
Amy BELL Grand Daur Female 9 m Penrith, Cumberland, England

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:39 am
by dianel
Amy Beatrice M Bell
BIRTH: Sep 1879 - Penrith, Cumbria, Cumberland

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:49 am
by dianel
There's this:

1891 Thornby Hardcake, North Cumberland
George Bell Head 44 Blacksmith b. Thursby, Cumberland
Susan A Bell Wife 47 b. Accrington, Lancashire
Amy Bell Daur 13 b. Thursby, Cumberland
Fred Bell Son 12 b. Thursby, Cumberland
Mary Bell Daur 10 b. Thursby, Cumberland
Ada Bell Daur 9 b. Aikton, Cumberland

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:01 am
by dianel
1901 104 Napier St., Gorton, Lancashire
George Bell Head M 54 Blacksmith b. Cumberland, Thursby
Fred Bell Son 22 Grocer's Assistant b. Cumberland, Thursby
Thomas E Milburn Adopted Son 7 b. Cumberland, Aikton
Amy Bell Daur 23 Waitress in a restaurant b. Cumberland, Thursby
Mary Bell Daur 20 b. Cumberland, Thursby
Ada Bell Daur 18 Housekeeping b. Cumberland, Aikton

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:02 am
by Northern Lass
Hang on a min think I have somat wrong.....I have George bell and Susan Cartwright as parents back in a min :oops:

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:02 am
by Northern Lass
dianel wrote:Amy Beatrice M Bell
BIRTH: Sep 1879 - Penrith, Cumbria, Cumberland


Ok this is correct ..back in a min

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:08 am
by dianel
Marriages:
Amy Beatrice M Bell 1900 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
James Francis 1900 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Jessie Bremmer Lamb 1900 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
William Henry Oram 1900 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:10 am
by Northern Lass
Now as I say I have not done any of this side which is my fathers side....but it has been done by another person.
I have concentrated on other bits of the family as you all know in the Black Country.

This is what I have in my tree.

George Bell b 1854 Haltwhistle Northumberland
Charlotte Cartwright b 1860 Westtown Kingsland Hereford
and a load of kids.....
Gertrude 1877
Amy 1879 ......mine
Maud 1880.......this is the name that Amy calls her dau too
Laura 1888....and this is the name that Amy calls her dau too
Ellen 1887
Bertha 1889
Henry 1890
Ruth 1893
Robert 1895
Minnie 1898.....this is the name that Amy calls her dau too
George 1899
Hector 1900

no Tv in those days
:o

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:12 am
by peterd
here


1881 26 Hull St Elswick, Northumberland

George BELL Head 27 Haltwhistle, Northumberland, General Labourer
Isabella BELL Wife 20 Kingsland, Hereford,
Gertrude BELL 4 Lazonby, Cumberland,
Annie BELL 1 Lazonby, Cumberland,
Creland BELL Son 3 m Newcastle On Tyne

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:13 am
by Northern Lass
Now as I say I have marriage docs birth certifs etc etc..

but what is really odd is that on Lauras (nanas) marriage instead of this Daniel Simpson she reverts to Laura Oram and puts William Henry Oram on the marriage certif!

now why would she do that.

We heard that William Henry Oram went to America with another guy...not sure in what capacity :?

Re: Daniel Simpson b abt 1881

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:14 am
by Northern Lass
So it is George bell and a Charlotte not
George and Susan

sorry
:oops: