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Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:56 am
by Northern Lass
1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROUND John LILLEY Marianne Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/002/378

Deleted from main list NL 28-8-13

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:08 pm
by spes123
St James Lower Gornal
8/Nov/1868
John ROUND, 20, B, Labourer, Gornal Wood, John ROUND, Miner
Marianne LILLEY, 19, S, Servant, Barns Meadow, William LILLEY, miner
Banns both x
Wits David MARSH, Mary JONES both x

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:25 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Si moving to BC section to remember to add :grin:

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:54 am
by Northern Lass
Got a query on this one...............

father should be an Isaac Round not a JOhn

mother is a Lilley
Mary Ann Round formerly Lilley listed as mother on daughter Hannah's Birth Cert. father named as John Round.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =241911666

:?

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:57 am
by Northern Lass
Can we find John on earlier census pls

1891 23, Low Town, Woodside, Dudley.
John Round Head 44 General Labourer Woodside.
Mary Ann Round wife 40 Woodside
John Round son 20 General Labourer Woodside.
Hannah Round daughter 18 Woodside.
Isaac Round son 16 Coal Pit Labourer Woodside.
William Round son 14 Woodside.
Benjamin Round son 12 Woodside.
James son 8 Woodside.
Shadrach Round son 6 Woodside.
Mary A Round daughter 2 Woodside.
Sarah E Round daughter 5 Woodside

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:04 am
by spes123
Have check my notes I made and deffo wrote down John Round as father, will check when back at Dudley on 24th

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:08 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Si see if we can unravel on thread too.....

here they are in 1881 ....
and a James Lilley aged 66 with wife Mary is at no 27


1881 29 Wood St Dudley
John Round 34 head married Coke Burner
Mary Ann Round 31
John Round 11 scholar
Hannah Round 9 scholar
Isaac Round 6 scholar
William Round 4
Benjamin Round 1
all born Dudley Worcs.

and on the other page /next page I think is his mother Hannah...
32 Wood St Dudley
Hannah Round head wid 63
William Round son 39
born Dudley

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:20 am
by rockyfowler
John was a twin
4 Apr 1847 St Thomas Dudley
Sarah daur of Isaac and Hannah ROUND,Born 8th January 1847, Woodside, Miner
John son of Isaac and Hannah ROUND,Born 8th January 1847, Woodside, Miner

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:28 am
by spes123
seems I am not the only one to have the father of John Round as John Round, just had a look at familysearch.org and they have the same info.

So do we have a different marriage or has the father's name being recorded in correctly?

:?

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:36 am
by rockyfowler
16 Feb 1873 St Thomas Dudley
Abel SIMCOX 22 B Labourer Dudley Father George Simcox (Dec) Miner
Christianna ROUND 20 S Dudley Father Isaac Round Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Elwell X / Charity Elwell X

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... und-Family

ROUND Mary A DAVIS Joseph Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/004/135 1873
ROUND Jane MACHIN Benjamin Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/004/328 1875
ROUND Martha HADLINGTON Charles E Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/004/375 1876

23 Apr 1855 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas LILLEY F B Miner Dudley Father Thomas Lilley Labourer
Mary Ann ROUND M S Dudley Father James Round Labourer
After Banns Thomas Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Sarah Welch X / James Round

15 Jun 1857 St Thomas Dudley
Richard SHAW F B Horse Nail Maker Dudley Father James Shaw Labourer
Mary ROUND F S Dudley Father John Round Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Luke English / Elizabeth Webb

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:31 pm
by Northern Lass
You've lost me RF :shock:

so do you think the 2 isaacs on bcc b 1817 are same ?

those 2 marriages above how do they connect?

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:32 pm
by rockyfowler
Just trying to eliminate people must be one of the most popular names :roll: :-)

Re: Marriage - St James Lower Gornal- NL & Twiglet*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:48 pm
by Northern Lass
I think it must be an error on the marriage entry.

Looks like mother Hannah is up road on census

so I am done with this one for now I think

thanks all for help :wink: