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ARCH:Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:46 pm
by sparkstopper
Have this lookup from Rocky: (thanks Rocky)
by rockyfowler » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:01 pm

8 Mar 1840 St Mary Oldswinford
John WESTON F B Carpenter Stourbridge Samuel Weston Carpenter
Jane NEWALL F S Servant Stourbridge John Newall Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Showard / Mary Ann Showard X

However BCC shows John as son of Joseph(Waggoner) not Samuel.
and John as Puddler:(Not Carpenter) Here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family
Can someone 'have a look' ...looks like wrong John.

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:42 am
by rockyfowler
Wits?
8 Jun 1839 St Mary Oldswinford
John SHEWARD F B Glass Blower Heath Father Benjamin Sheward Labourer
Mary Ann BRADLEY F S Servant Heath Father John Bradley Labourer
After Banns John Signed The X of Mary
Wit; George Onions / Hannah Jorden?

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:47 am
by peterd
There this one still late for the 1834 birth unless his second marriage ?


Name John Weston
Spouse's Name Jane Southwick
Event Date 25 Jun 1837 Kidderminster,Worcester,

Indexing Project (Batch) NumberM04395-1
System OriginEngland-ODM
GS Film number0435261-263, 0435264-266, 0435267-270, 0435272-274, 435275
Reference ID

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1891 Census: New St. Kingswinford,Quarry Bank.
John WESTON hd.Widr: 75 Stationer b.Hales Owen.
Caroline Webster sister in law 70 b.Gospel Oak, Worcs


can we trace caroline back

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:05 am
by peterd
1901; 105 new st, Quarry Bank

Benjamin Radford 35 stationary engine driver
Eliza Redford 40
Caroline Webster 80 visitor, Gospel Oak, Staffordshire
Thomas Wood 30 moulder, visitor, Woodside,
Beatrice Wood 22 visitor, Cookley, Worcestershire
Florence Wood 18 visitor
Florence Wood 2 Weeks visitor
rest quarry bank

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:08 am
by peterd
1861 portway place, Wolverley

Mary Webster 70 forgeman wid ? Titnal, Staffordshire
Caroline Webster 40 unm dressmaker, Gaspel Oak, Staffordshire

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:11 am
by peterd
1851 portway place, Wolverley

Mary Webster 61 Petnall, Staffordshire
Caroline Webster 30 dressmaker, Gospelwork, Staffordshire

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:17 am
by peterd
1841 * row, Wolverley

William Webster 45 forgework ?
Mary Webster 50
Caroline Webster 20
Eliza Webster 13


so poss looking for a weston / webster marr?

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:56 am
by sparkstopper
John's brother Joseph b.1825 marries a Jane WEBSTER b.1825,
trying to find a connection here...

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:47 pm
by sparkstopper
peterd wrote:There this one still late for the 1834 birth unless his second marriage ?


Name John Weston
Spouse's Name Jane Southwick
Event Date 25 Jun 1837 Kidderminster,Worcester,

Indexing Project (Batch) NumberM04395-1
System OriginEngland-ODM
GS Film number0435261-263, 0435264-266, 0435267-270, 0435272-274, 435275
Reference ID


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This is a possible: See here:

1851 Census: New St.Quarry Bank,Kingswinford.
John WESTON hd.35 Pudler of Iron b.Halesowen,Shropshire.
Jane WESTON wife 33 Domestic Manager b.B'ham.
Mary Ann WESTON dau.16 Dressmaker b.B'ham.
Ellen WESTON dau.9 b.Kingswinford.
Hannah WESTON dau.6 b.Kingswinford.
John WESTON son 3 b.Kingswinford.
Caroline Southwick visitor 16 Screw Warmer b.Cradley.

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:56 am
by sparkstopper
ROCKY:
I know the writing on these early marriage certs can sometimes
be obscure...can you check the occupations of John & Samuel please...
8 Mar 1840 St Mary Oldswinford
John WESTON F B Carpenter Stourbridge Samuel Weston Carpenter
Jane NEWALL F S Servant Stourbridge John Newall Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Showard / Mary Ann Showard X

Could these read CarpetWeaver or similar.
thank you.

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:41 am
by rockyfowler
Need to recheck at Dudley Archives :wink: RF

This can be looked up at Hives

Jane Southwick, "England, Marriages, 1538"“1973 "
Name: John Weston
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Jane Southwick
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 25 Jun 1837
Event Place: St. Mary'S Church, Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00916-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 350512
Reference ID: no 68

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:44 am
by Northern Lass
sparkstopper wrote:Have this lookup from Rocky: (thanks Rocky)
by rockyfowler » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:01 pm

8 Mar 1840 St Mary Oldswinford
John WESTON F B Carpenter Stourbridge Samuel Weston Carpenter
Jane NEWALL F S Servant Stourbridge John Newall Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Showard / Mary Ann Showard X

However BCC shows John as son of Joseph(Waggoner) not Samuel.
and John as Puddler:(Not Carpenter) Here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family
Can someone 'have a look' ...looks like wrong John.


I think this is the wrong John Sparks

but this info could do with going on BCC save wasting it...shall I split thread and amend so we can add marriage of John weston and Jane newall and wits marriage

looks like it is deffo Carpenter on marriage i have checked.
So looks like the 1837 one is a possible

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:06 am
by sparkstopper
Wanted Lookup checking because of this:
1871 Census:63 George St. Kidderminster.
Samuel WESTON hd.51.Worsted Weaver. b.1820 Kidderminster.
Jane WESTON wife 50.b.1821 Barford.
Mary A.WESTON dau.25. Cutter of Rugs.b.1846 Kidderminster.
Sarah A WESTON dau.16 Cutter of Carpets.b.1855 Kidderminster.
Also in household
John NEWELL father in law.77.Lab.in Coal Yard.b.1794 Clee Hills.

Here on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family
thought his name may be Saml.john or John Samuel!!!!
Can't find a John Weston (Carpenter) anywhere around that date?

I have added Witns: marriage here:.....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ard-Family

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:16 pm
by Northern Lass
That marriage looks ok to add Sparks

8 Mar 1840 St Mary Oldswinford
John WESTON F B Carpenter Stourbridge Samuel Weston Carpenter
Jane NEWALL F S Servant Stourbridge John Newall Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Showard / Mary Ann Showard X

get it added! :grin:

it does say John on marriage info as above but prob as you say John Samuel or Samuel John or
just an error...must be correct though cos of her father with them

add it :P

Re: Marriage: John Weston/Jane Newell.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:18 pm
by sparkstopper