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Well if you can't find em I aint going to even bother looking!

Well done anyway FS

Ok think this is now Completed for the moment
Think Di 79 needs to confirm that birth is or isnt hers for George
I have added to connections all the info

So unless otherwise advised this topic will now be archived within 24 hrs

Well the one we thourght was the Birth is'nt , so he still remains elusive, one thing that did come from it is Samuel Williamson parents can be confirmed as Edward Williamson B: 1814 to Jane Mansell.

So after having a chat with NL, this is the info i have on George Henry Williamson
No Birth Cert i can find
No Death Cert i can find:( even tho i have the grave number and the date he was put to ground with was 6 August 1933

as we know i have him on 1871-1901 Enland Census
I have his Marriage Cert to Caroline Barns
i have all his chidren's Birth/deaths/marriage Certs
i have Caroline's Birth and Death Cert
He is George henry Williamson on all the infor i have, except Carolines Death Cert with a E.A.Reed was the informant (Brother-in-law), Now the information he gave was that caroline's husband was a Thomas Richard williamson, a sand Quarryman.

Now like i say i have spoken to NL about this and we did find a Thomas R Williamson B: 1854 West Bromwich north east, which fits in with the year, area of Birth, and the death cert info
also im now gonna nip to pontefract to hopefully pick up a death Cert for thomas Richard williamson, everything matches except they won't tell me the informants name so fingers crossed and i shall let you know; Fingers crossed

I've got everything crossed for ya Diane

Ok this is the family we are talking about...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

I wonder if he was maybe adopted by the family?

can we find him on the 1861 census at all as maybe with another family
or
can we find a Thomas Richard Williamson on the 1861 b West Brom

Ok death cert is a match for my George henry Williamson(aka Thomas Richard Williamson)or is it the other way around

Details are:-

Thomas Richard Williamson D: 3 august 1933 age 78yrs Informant was a Glady's Reed (formerly Williamson) daughter.
Also found a Richard Thomas williamson Birth 1854 West bromwich north ( sent for)

But i dont understand the name change and i spoke to my mum and she does'nt know the name as far as she was aware her GGrandad was George Henry.

Just trying to find Edward Williamson on the census in 1841
and this Thomas Richard

on the 1851 Edward father puts staffordshire Wellbourne
where is this?

forget that I need glasses!
West Bromich

You havn't broke all your wine glasses then

Jimmy wrote:You havn't broke all your wine glasses then

I cant see this lot on the 1861 at all
nor this Thomas R Williamson
odd

I can't find them either, but i have sent off for that Birth cert that matches the name given on the death cert Thomas richard williamson.

maybe after they registered his name decided they did not like it, or I dont know frustrating as it is i'll have to wait till the birth cert comes through and see what that say's

Ok shall we archive pending look ups?

yup i would

Brought this back to the board cos Di has got somat to tell us.....dead exciting....

off ya go Di!

Ok,
Well for years i've been looking for George Henry Williamson, i've found him on the census from 1871-1901, on all his children's birth/deaths/marriage certs plus his own marriage cert he is George Henry, now his wife Caroline's death cert refers to him as Thomas Richard Williamson, information given by E.A.Reed (son-in-law), i've always thourght that it was a typo error so thourght nothing of it.

So i was chatting to NL and we was discussing what info i have (because i could not find a birth or death cert for him, even tho i have seen his grave stone and have his grave ref no) so we decided to try and see if the register office in Pontefract would have a death for this Thomas Richard (name given on wife's death cert) and they did, the exact date of death that was on his grave and the fact that his daughter Gladys Reed (williamson) was the informant of his death concludes that George Henry is in fact Thomas Richards, so NL and myself did a search for a birth in West Bromwich and a Thomas Richard B: 1854 came up..i recieved the cert this morning and it confirms that the 2 above names are the same person, father Edward Williamson, mother Jane Mansell.

Why the name change i don't have a clue maybe they decided they did not like his birth name but unless i find a reliable necromancer to talk to him i guess i will never know
With this being confirmed now i feel like i have won the lottery but i also want to thank everyone on these forums for the help they have given, and to say this site is the best, without it i dont think i would have concided searching for name given on the death cert. Big thanks to NL for listening to me too xx

So now i have a note that Edwards father is also called Edward and his mother was Hannah Parks, the research goes on

EDWARD WILLIAMSON
JANE MANSELL
Marriage: 21 APR 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


should able to pick edward and jane up on the 41 census