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I have tracked a relative to Cork, Ireland and from Ancestry have discovered year (in this case of marriage), volume, page and FHL film no. I have never crossed swords with Irish records before and wonder how I now access this information (specifically I need to see bride's father's name). Everything I have found on the internet seems to be either confusing or unhelpful. One site seemed to indicate that I now need to go there; is this true? Whilst I would love to visit the city, I think I might get some resistance to spending our family holidays there digging up my ancestors...

Any help gratefully received!

Hi Derek, we have just come back from a long weekend visit to Dublin, which is where my husband was born.
I had pre-ordered microfiche copies of 4 days worth of a particular newspaper from 1942 and found the little snippet we were looking for. We found staff at the General Library extremely helpful and went out of their way in pointing us in other directions that could be relevant.

It's true that Irish records can be very difficult to find, due to the fact that except for 1901 & 1911 Census they were destroyed - or were they?

from The National Archives of Ireland site ....

"The original census returns for 1861 and 1871 were destroyed shortly after the censuses were taken. Those for 1881 and 1891 were pulped during the First World War, probably because of the paper shortage. The returns for 1821, 1831, 1841 and 1851 were, apart from a few survivals, notably for a few counties for 1821 and 1831, destroyed in 1922 in the fire at the Public Record Office at the beginning of the Civil War."

see here - http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy ... usmemo.htm

Perhaps you will find this website useful - http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/index.html

By the way, we didn't just go for the reasons above, our daughter & eleven year old granddaughter came with us.
We all spent one day in beautiful Howth
Next day they visited Kilmainham Gaol and did the Dublin bus tour whilst we visited family members.

We go every year and always come back saying ..."could have done with another couple of days"

Hi Derek

I have only needed a few details from Irish records and managed to find them on this site http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
I didn't actually pay for the information as I managed to get what I needed (and so find the person in the English census) for free.

Derek wrote:I have tracked a relative to Cork, Ireland and from Ancestry have discovered year (in this case of marriage), volume, page and FHL film no.

If you have the FHL film number then you could request the film at your nearest Family History Center - if there is one handy. It can take a while for the film to arrive but doesn't cost very much.

Hi, that's very helpful. Much of the data such as place, date, name of spouse is in the public domain. I have never used FHL records before. Is it likely that more information e.g. in this case, name of bride's father is going to be on the film?

I would have thought so. I suppose it depends a bit on when the marriage was, and also if the film is of the certificate entries rather than an index to them.
This might help http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/ ... WhBXMq65ic though you might have to read a lot of it and do some clicking to get the information

mallosa wrote:Hi Derek, we have just come back from a long weekend visit to Dublin, which is where my husband was born.
I had pre-ordered microfiche copies of 4 days worth of a particular newspaper from 1942 and found the little snippet we were looking for. We found staff at the General Library extremely helpful and went out of their way in pointing us in other directions that could be relevant.

It's true that Irish records can be very difficult to find, due to the fact that except for 1901 & 1911 Census they were destroyed - or were they?

from The National Archives of Ireland site ....

"The original census returns for 1861 and 1871 were destroyed shortly after the censuses were taken. Those for 1881 and 1891 were pulped during the First World War, probably because of the paper shortage. The returns for 1821, 1831, 1841 and 1851 were, apart from a few survivals, notably for a few counties for 1821 and 1831, destroyed in 1922 in the fire at the Public Record Office at the beginning of the Civil War."

see here - http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy ... usmemo.htm

Perhaps you will find this website useful - http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/index.html

Great minds think alike Gardener

mallosa wrote:
Great minds think alike Gardener

In my case I think it is fools seldom differ I really should read the previous answers better
How about "good advice can never be repeated too often"?

Nice one!

think the best way to research you irish root is feet on the ground there, as local archive knowledge is a must due to the irregularity of the information avalible, think by what ive read local archive are a better place to start ?

must get to galway sometime

OK thanks everyone, I shall take your advice!

Derek