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This Thomas Nicholls married twice
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =742258201

Elizabeth unknown must be :- Elizabeth Stackhouse who connects to Maggie

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1901 Census 15 Danks Road Tipton Dudley Staffs.
Harriett Stackhouse Head 81 born Dudley Worcs.
Annie Bird dau 41 born Tipton Staffs.
Dorothy Bird grd.dau 11 born Willenhall Staffs.
Jack Bird grd.son 10 born Willenhall Staffs.
Ralph Nicholls grd.son 22 Tailors Dresser
Edith Nicholls grd.dau 19
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

Edith and Ralph are children of Thomas Nicholls and Elizabeth

Looks good then Mumbles you ok to connect up or do you want me to do it?

is there a marriage we can drop in?

Here is the marriage :

13 October 1872 - All Saints, Sedgley
Thomas Nicholls : Aged 23 - Collier - Living in Coseley - Father William Nicholls - Miner
Elizabeth Stackhouse : Aged 24 - Living in Coseley - Father Philip Stackhouse - Charter Master
Witnesses : W H Fletcher and Seth Pugh

Cannot find Thomas Nicholls second marriage

Might be this one :

St Michael, Tividale : 1897/499 - Thomas Nicholls and Mary A Walker

There is a death recorded in June Qtr 1896 - Dudley District for Elizabeth Nicholls (born in 1850)

Something does not Stack up with Stackhouse family unless Maggie Knows someting we do not
as George Samuel Clifton is shown as son of Phillip Stackhouse

but Census ( not on bcc ) show

1841 Census Dudley Port Tipton Staffs.
Elizabeth Clifton 40 Beer Seller
Harriott Clifton 20
John Clifton 15 Iron Roller
Thomas Clifton 10
Eliza Clifton 5
Mary Ann Clifton 5
Elizabeth Clifton 4
George Clifton 4mths

1851 Census Dudley Road Tipton Staffs.
Elizabeth Clifton Head 54 Publican
Eliza Clifton dau 19 Dressmaker
Mary Ann Clifton dau 18 Bonnet Maker
Elizabeth Clifton dau 14
George Clifton son 10
All born Dudley Port Staffs.

1861 Census Dudley Port Tipton Staffs.
Elizabeth Clifton Head 62 (wid) born Dudley Worcs.
George Clifton grd.son 19 Boiler Maker
Elizabeth Stackhouse grd.son 13
Rest born Tipton Staffs.

Have made connection and added info but did not want to amend mother of George Samuel Clifton
as shown as son of Elizabeth Clifton in 1851 and grd.son in 1861

Why have we got Mary Ann as his wife as he is with Elizabeth all thru census
does she need deleting

mumbles wrote:Have made connection and added info but did not want to amend mother of George Samuel Clifton
as shown as son of Elizabeth Clifton in 1851 and grd.son in 1861

amended see if that looks ok
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =168370346

My fault Nl I have amended 1901 and 1911 Census now.
Also I have found Thomas Nicholls and Parents on 1841 to 1851 Census
Spelt Nickolls and Nichols

George Samuel Clifton is the son of Harriet Clifton. He was born on 28 Feb 1841 before Harriet married Philip Stackhouse. He was baptised on the 18th April 1841, the child of Harriet Clifton. In 1871 he is living with his grandmother Elizabeth Clifton - at 187 Dudley Port, Tipton. His age is given on the census as 20, but he is in fact 30.

1881 : Aged 40 - Living at 37 North Street, Wolverhampton - Butcher (Also in the house is Visitor Florry Tector - Aged 4. There is a Florence G Tector in 1891 in Wolverhampton - with parents Thomas and Priscilla. There is a Thomas Tector marrying Priscilla Hancox - Susan's sister? in 1866 - All Saints, West Bromwich)

He married Susan Hancox in 1873 in Wolverhampton

1891 : Aged 50 - Living at 216 Dudley Road, Wolverhampton - Butcher (Also in the house Housekeeper Emma Hancox - Aged 50 - Possibly the sister of Susan)

He is mentioned in the Will of Philip Stackhouse, who always treated him as his son.

Thanks AntieEm .
That sorts it and I have added Nicholls family that evolved from the marriage

This ok then Mumbles

do we have the W'ton marriage date and church for George see if we can see if it puts father down?

Sorry NL - Never did get that marriage. It's not on the Wolverhampton Indexes.

Don't think Philip was his father though - his first wife Sarah Vale didn't die until 1847. (Incidentally, hers was one of the biggest grave stones in St Martins, Tipton - keep meaning to go and have a look if it is with the others that were removed from the churchyard).

Philip Stackhouse was very well respected in Tipton and although he was just a newpaper shopkeeper, and blind, he amassed quite a fortune, owning houses and a couple of mines in Tipton. His will is five pages long, and he names George Clifton right at the beginning as his friend. Thomas Nicholls is also mentioned in the will as the husband of Elizabeth.

I have done loads of work on the Stackhouse family over the last ten years, just haven't got around to adding it to the BCC tree. Harriet (1881), the granddaughter of Philip Stackhouse and Sarah Vale married George Henry Humphries, the brother of my Gr Grandmother Rebecca Humphries, Harriet was also blind - must have been genetic. Their son Joe married my dad's sister, so we are very closely knitted. My uncle Joe used to say that although his mom was blind - she could still hit his dad on the head with a stone at 20 paces if he was winding her up.