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ARC TBC.............alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:38 pm
by feral-underclass
had problems with this man until ancestry released the 1911 census :oops:

cwgc details

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casua ... ED%20JAMES

1911 census details

39, high street pensnett,

harriet preece 54 general dealer born west bromwich
may preece 22 at home born pensnett
william preece 20 blacksmith striker born pensnett
alfred preece 14 painter born pensnett

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:03 am
by Northern Lass
Where was the newspaper article from which paper and year ?

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:14 am
by Northern Lass

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:28 am
by Northern Lass
Can anyone see them on earlier census pls

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:01 am
by Jimmy
Looks like Preece on image.
1901. High St, Pensnett.
Joseph Pruce 47. General Labourer.
Harriett Pruce 44. Dudley.
Catherine Emma Pruce 20. Dau.
Sarah Hoy Pruce 12. Dau. May.
William Henry Pruce 10. Son.
Alfred Jame Pruce 4. Son.

Others born Pensnett.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1879.
PREECE Joseph. PERKINS Harriet. Kingswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 213/005/255.

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:18 am
by Jimmy
Looks like Preece on image.
1891. Road, Pensnett.
Joseph Pruce 37. Master butcher. Kingswinford.
Harrick Pruce 34. West Bromwich.
Catherine E Pruce 11. Dau. Dudley.
Harriet L Pruce 8. Dau. Dudley.
Sarah M Pruce 2. Dau. Kingswinford.
Joseph L Pruce 1. Son. Kingswinford.
Infant Pruce 1/12. Son. Kingswinford.
Catherine Perkins 72. Mother. Widow.

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:24 am
by Jimmy
1881. 47 Wolverhampton St, Dudley.
Catherine Perkins 62. Wid. Bredenbury, Hereford.
Joseph Preece 27. Son in law. Butcher Shop.
Harriet Preece 24. Dudley. Dau.
Catherine Emma Preece 1. Granddaughter.
George Parker 48. Lodger. Shoe maker.

Others born Kingswinford.

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:53 am
by Jimmy
1861. Fox St, Kingswinford.
James Preece 33. Green grocer. Kingston, Herefordshire.
Emma Preece 35. Whombuy, Shropshire.
Ambrose Firmstone 13. Son-in-law.
Henrietta Firmstone 11. Daughter-in-law.
Joseph Pruce 8. Son.
Elizabeth Solena Pruce 4. Daughter.

Others born Kingswinford.

Marriages Dec 1851.
BENNETT Eliza. Madeley. 18. 141.
Deakin Jane Ellen. Madeley. 18. 141.
FIRMSTONE Emma. Madeley. 18. 141.
LISTER Emanuel. Madeley. 18. 141.
Palmer Sarah. Madeley. 18. 141.
POOLE Richard Glazebrook. Madeley 18. 141.
PREECE James. Madeley. 18. 141.
Richards Edward. Madeley. 18. 141.

James Preece.
Spouse's Name: Emma Firmston.
Event Date: 01 Dec 1851.
Event Place: Dawley-Magna, Shropshire, England
Father's Name: Joseph Preece.
Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Ellis.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03975-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
GS Film number: 1526898.
Reference ID: item 1-8 p 77.

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:06 am
by Jimmy
1851. Fox St, Kingswinford.
Richard Elks 30. Willington, Shropshire.
Emma Elks 33. Rockadine, Shropshire.
Thomas Elks 10. Rockadine, Shropshire.
John Elks 7. Rockadine, Shropshire.
Emma Firmstone 25. Sis in law. Widow. Wellington, Shropshire.
Henrietta Firmstone 11 Mo.

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:59 am
by Northern Lass
Interesting coming out as Preece only as Priest in newspaper article
will put him as Preece

thanks for info Jimmy will add what I can

flagging to archive

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:25 am
by feral-underclass
the article is from the county express 1917

well done jimmy, i couldnt find them :oops:

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:33 am
by Jimmy
Looks like its just the newspaper article is wrong.


UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919.
Name: Alfred James Preece.
Birth Place: Pensnett, Staffs.
Residence: Pensnett, Near Dudley, Staffs.
Death Date: 22 Jan 1917.
Death Location: M.E.F..
Enlistment Location: Birmingham, Warwicks.
Rank: Private.
Regiment: Buffs (East Kent Regiment).
Battalion: 5th Battalion.
Number: T/241155.
Type of Casualty: Killed in action.
Theatre of War: Asiatic Theatres.
Comments: Formerly 19631, 6Th Battn., Wores Regt.

Re: alfred james preece born 1897

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:50 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1851. Fox St, Kingswinford.
Richard Elks 30. Willington, Shropshire.
Emma Elks 33. Rockadine, Shropshire.
Thomas Elks 10. Rockadine, Shropshire.
John Elks 7. Rockadine, Shropshire.
Emma Firmstone 25. Sis in law. Widow. Wellington, Shropshire.
Henrietta Firmstone 11 Mo.


Emma's first marriage,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1846.
FIRMSTONE * William ELK Emma. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/007/200.
FIRMSTONE * William ELKS Emma. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/007/200.

West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1849.
FIRMSTONE William. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/014/492.

1841. Mount, Kingswinford, Staffs.
Sarah Fermstone 50. Ind. n.b.i.c.
Sarah Fermstone 20.
William Fermstone 20.
Edward Fermstone 15.
Thomas Fermstone 45.
Sarah Fermstone 45. n.b.i.c.
Luisa Fermstone 15.
Sarah Fermstone 40.
Susan Fencott 30.
Ann Timmings 20.
William Beaumont 15. n.b.i.c.