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John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:16 am
by mallosa
from CWGC site...
HADLEY, JOHN THOMAS
Rank: Serjeant
Service No:5391
Date of Death: 03/10/1917
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
64th Bde.
Grave Reference LIX. C. 32.
Cemetery: TYNE COT CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Husband of Dinah Hadley, of 97, High St., Rowley Regis, Birmingham.
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:32 am
by mallosa
1911: 1 Tippity Green, Springfield, Dudley Daniel Hadley 60 Head Blacksmith General Granite Quarry
Mary Hadley 59 Wife - Married 39 years - children 9/7/2
Frederick Hadley 29 Son S Hauling Engine Man Colliery Coal works
John Hadley 20 Son Married Builders Bricklayer
Dinah Hadley 19 Sons wife - Married under 1 year - children 0Marriage 1910
HADLEY John T DEVONPORT Dinah Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/030/166
is this Dinah on BCC -
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ort-FamilyJohn's parents marriage ...
Marriage 1872
HADLEY Daniel TROMANS Mary Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/1/250
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:45 am
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:from CWGC site...
HADLEY, JOHN THOMAS
Rank: Serjeant
Service No:5391
Date of Death: 03/10/1917
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
64th Bde.
Grave Reference LIX. C. 32.
Cemetery: TYNE COT CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Husband of Dinah Hadley, of 97, High St., Rowley Regis, Birmingham.
from this site -
http://rowleyvillage.webs.com/rowleypeople.htmSgt John Thomas Hadley, 5391, 64th Brigade, Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) Husband of Dinah, 97 High St Rowley village, son of Daniel and Mary of number 1 Tipperty Green Rowley. Killed Flanders 03/10/1917 aged 26, buried at Tyne Cott cemetery.
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:04 am
by rockyfowler
25 Dec 1872 St Luke Reddal Hill
Daniel HADLEY 21 B Labourer Old Hill Father Samuel Hadley Blacksmith
Mary TROMANS 20 S Old Hill (Mother`s Name Elizabeth Tromans)
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Edward Foster / Sarah Foster X
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:20 pm
by mallosa
Thanks a lot Rocky
I wonder if this is Mary with her mother Elizabeth...
1861: Garratts Lane, Rowley RegisJoseph Troman 67 Head Wid Nail Dealer
James Troman 23 Son unm Nail Dealer
William Troman 48 Son Marr Warehouseman
Elizabeth Troman 50 Dau in Law
Elizabeth Troman 25 Grd Dau unm
Mary Troman 6 Grd Dau? ? (Grt Grd Dau?)Matilda Troman 2 Grd Dau?? (Grt Grd Dau?)
I think this is the above Joseph Troman, already on BCC (note son William a Warehouseman who marries an Elizabeth) -
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =375153429am I right?
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:41 pm
by Northern Lass
so Mary b abt 1852 would be dau to Elizabeth Simpson and unknown......could be San
wonder what she was regis as though Mary as Tromans or Naylor as Elizabeth married in 1859
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:15 pm
by mallosa
er... I don't know Jan

Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:35 pm
by Northern Lass
hmmmm I think it is Mary.....will sticky this while we ponder
any births or bapts for a Mary Naylor or tromans?
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:37 am
by mallosa
Can't see a Mary Naylor that would fit...
Birth Mar 1855
Tromans Mary Dudley 6c 19
Birth Dec 1856
Tromans Mary Dudley 6c 116
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:48 am
by Northern Lass
can someone have a look at this with us pls see what they think?
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:26 am
by Northern Lass
Ok connected up Dinah
Elizabeth and Mary are here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =907104845dob for Mary coming out at
marriage age 20 in 1872 b 1852
1881 age 29 b 1852
1891 age 38 b1853
1901 age 48 b 1853
1911 age 59 b1852
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:36 am
by Northern Lass
mallosa wrote:Thanks a lot Rocky
I wonder if this is Mary with her mother Elizabeth...
1861: Garratts Lane, Rowley RegisJoseph Troman 67 Head Wid Nail Dealer
James Troman 23 Son unm Nail Dealer
William Troman 48 Son Marr Warehouseman
Elizabeth Troman 50 Dau in Law
Elizabeth Troman 25 Grd Dau unm
Mary Troman 6 Grd Dau? ? (Grt Grd Dau?)Matilda Troman 2 Grd Dau?? (Grt Grd Dau?)
I think this is the above Joseph Troman, already on BCC (note son William a Warehouseman who marries an Elizabeth) -
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =375153429am I right?
who does matilda belong to? do we have her birth?
cant see one b abt 1859 on bmsgh under troman/trueman or tromans
so what is she regis as ?
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:01 am
by Northern Lass
is this death of Matilda?
1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
TROMANS Matilda Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/24/461
and where is Mary Tromans on 1871? she marries in 1872
1871 no one else in household
1871: Garratt's Lane, Rowley Regis
William Tromans Head Wid 58 Warehouse Man Rowley Regis
so where is Mary?
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:03 am
by Northern Lass
Odd this ...Elizabeth Simpson is born 1811 not sure where she is either RR or Kinswinford
she is too young for that marriage in 1824...or not....age 13/14 ish...so possible
her father on marriage is John Simpson
and that checks out with the 1841 for a George Naylor and Elizabeth with a John Simpson with them
not sure if his occup is on there...
then I cant see them at all in 1851 can anyone else.
still not sure Mally if Mary here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =396257236can be connected to this Elizabeth here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =994812677need...
birth for Mary and Matilda tromans or whatevr their names are regis as
poss TROMANS Mary Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/15/495 1851
Re: John Thomas Hadley (husband of Dinah)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:06 am
by mallosa
How about this...
Marriage 1862
WILLIAMS Daniel TROWMANS Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/319
1871: Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis
John Tromans 56 Head Lab
Ann Tromans 62 Wife
Darrel (Daniel) Williams 25 Son in Law Marr Coalminer (age looks like 35)
Elizabeth William 26 Dau Marr (age looks like 36)
Mary Tromans 16 Grd Dau
Sophia Williams 9 Grd Dau
Joseph Williams 4 Grd Son
John Williams 2 Grd Son
(all born Rowley Regis)