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Would anyone be kind enough to look up the marriage records of one of my ancestors please. James Davies/Davis was born in St Helens, Lancs abt 1792 and moved to Rowley Regis some time later and married
Hannah Hipkiss at St Marys Church, Kingswinford on 26th December, 1811.

I've not been able to get his birth certificate because not sure his parents names so I am hoping to find his fathers name on his marriage records, thanks

hi you wont get fathers name on early marriages only witnesses
fathers name only added after civil regis in 1837

26 Dec 1811 St Mary Kingswinford
James DAVIES otp
Hannah HIPKISS otp
By Banns
Wit; John Plant / Thos. Walker

Did'nt realise fathers names were'nt listed on marriage certificate pre 1837! That was my only hope of confirming James's father. Thanks for supplying the names of Witness's thou! I only know he was born in St Helens, Lancs abt 1792 because its recorded on the Census. Has anyone any ideas how to find his birth - Davies/Davis is quite a popular name and obviously I need to be sure I've got the correct James!

There is a James Davis born 9 July 1792, bapt 22 July 1792, at St Helen's, son of Thomas Davis.
Couldn't see any others around 1792 in St Helen's, but there are quite a few of similar date for rest of Lancashire.

Thats great thanks! I'll make a note of those dates - they look good but think I would need to confirm his fathers name with other records - Any ideas?

normandmal wrote:Thats great thanks! I'll make a note of those dates - they look good but think I would need to confirm his fathers name with other records - Any ideas?

any other davis near him in the censuses from lancs ?

normandmal wrote:Did'nt realise fathers names were'nt listed on marriage certificate pre 1837! That was my only hope of confirming James's father. Thanks for supplying the names of Witness's thou! I only know he was born in St Helens, Lancs abt 1792 because its recorded on the Census. Has anyone any ideas how to find his birth - Davies/Davis is quite a popular name and obviously I need to be sure I've got the correct James!

There are no Certificates before 1837, only Parish Records, Civil Registration 1837 (Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates.) As Peter suggested you need to find James on every Census and see who his neighbours were, any Parents, Brothers or Sisters and check out their Marriages, if anyone of them Married twice and the 2nd Marriage was after Sep 1837 you are in luck.

26 Dec 1811 St Mary Kingswinford
James DAVIES otp
Hannah HIPKISS otp
By Banns
Wit; John Plant / Thos. Walker

Thos Walker I believe was a Church Official.

HTH Linell.

James is only the Census for 1841 and 1851. He may have died before the next one! I have checked both Census and in 1841 it says he was born abt 1796 and on the 1851 Census it states abt 1792. I have checked to see if there are any other Davis/Davies family members living nearby and coming from Lancashire, but most of them were born in Rowley Regis where James and Hannah lived with their children. There are many Hipkiss's living nearby but no siblings to James. I'm not sure if his family moved from St Helens in search of work whilst James was a young boy or infact it was just James that was looking for work!

So it is this James on Bcc?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =991351215

Which is your line down normandmal

And have you got the Birth certif info on Solomon the son?

it will confirm mothers maiden name as Hipkiss
(if he is born 1837 sept onwards)

1838
DAVIES Solomom Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/1/279

Yes that is THE James! Thanks for that! Hav'nt got Solomons birth certificate only marriage certificate which has James Davis as his father. Not sure where I had Hipkiss from although definetely know James was married to Hannah.

Almost sure I had information of James Davis and Hannah Hipkiss off Ancestry!

20 May 1856 St John The Evangelist Kates Hill
Solomon DAVIES 19 B Pot Maker Rowley Father James Davies Collier
May Harriet BOURNE 18 S Rowley Father David Bourne Bricklayer
Wit; Cornelius Hill / Ann Slater

11 Dec 1853 St Thomas Dudley
William DANKS F B Fitter Dudley Father Thomas Danks Clerk
Martha DAVIES M S Dudley Father James Danks Miner
After Banns William Signed The X Of Martha
Wit; Harrit Danks / Matthias Danks X