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ARC TBC...Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:31 pm
by gardener
St Giles Rowley Regis
Marriage
1789 Aug 3
Elija Williams, b & Rachael Smith, sp
Wit. Joseph Westwood, James Mucklow

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:58 pm
by peterd
gardener wrote:St Giles Rowley Regis
Marriage
1789 Aug 3
Elija Williams, b & Rachael Smith, sp
Wit. Joseph Westwood, James Mucklow


gardener wrote:No reason why the man wouldn't walk even if there was a railway. The route would depend on where he started from though!

The Benjamin Williams linked to on BCC seems to be this one


This could be him

Parents: Elijah Williams,"‹ Rachl.

name: Benjamin Williams
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Oct 1792
baptism/christening place: ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date: 1790
father's name: Elijah Williams
mother's name: Rachl


1841
Benjm Williams 50
Ann Williams 45
Phineas Williams 15
Eleazar Williams 15
Ann Eliza Williams 10
Benjamin Williams 6

1851
Benjamin Williams 60 born Rowley Regis
Ann Williams 57
Ann Eliza Williams 21
Benjamin Williams 16

.


so were saying this is this benjamin

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:06 pm
by peterd
other kids

William Williams
baptism/christening date27 Aug 1797 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

Elijah Williams
Rachel

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM


Ruth Williams
baptism/christening date14 Jun 1807 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

Elijah Williams
Rachel

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM



John Williams
baptism/christening date21 Oct 1792 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

Elijah Williams
Rachel

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM



Jas. Williams
baptism/christening date04 Nov 1804 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

Elijah Williams
Rachl.

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:07 pm
by dudleytaylor
peterd wrote:
gardener wrote:St Giles Rowley Regis
Marriage
1789 Aug 3
Elija Williams, b & Rachael Smith, sp
Wit. Joseph Westwood, James Mucklow


gardener wrote:No reason why the man wouldn't walk even if there was a railway. The route would depend on where he started from though!

The Benjamin Williams linked to on BCC seems to be this one


This could be him

Parents: Elijah Williams,"‹ Rachl.




name: Benjamin Williams
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Oct 1792
baptism/christening place: ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date: 1790
father's name: Elijah Williams
mother's name: Rachl


1841
Benjm Williams 50
Ann Williams 45
Phineas Williams 15
Eleazar Williams 15
Ann Eliza Williams 10
Benjamin Williams 6

1851
Benjamin Williams 60 born Rowley Regis
Ann Williams 57
Ann Eliza Williams 21
Benjamin Williams 16

.


so were saying this is this benjamin

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family




Yep I know, I found it earlier. Still don't say about them coming from Wales. I will tell her what we do know ,and that I cannot tell her how he got from Wales to Rowley Regis. Im sure she has done this on purpose to give me something to do :lol: :lol: Thanks everyone :-)

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:11 pm
by peterd
so we need a benjamin and ann marriage see who witness are ?


poss ?

Benjamin Williams
Ann Westwood
marriage date28 Nov 1814 Halesowen,Worcester,

indexing project (batch) numberM01376-1
system originEngland-ODM

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:14 pm
by peterd
poss he might be on the 1841 census ?

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:21 pm
by gardener
I think it would be good to split this off and sort it all out for BCC
There is also this one

Elija s of Elija and Rachel Williams
bpt Sept 1 1799

1851
Elijah Williams 58 batchelor
James Hingley 58 brother in law
Mary Hingley 56 sister
Timothy Hingley 21
Elizah Hingley 21
John Hingley 17
Caroline Hingley 18
Josiah Weston 24
William Knight 18
Maria Bullock 18

and perhaps Mary Hingley is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:21 pm
by peterd

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:51 pm
by dudleytaylor
ok, I will leave you to it. let me know if you need to know anything. 8)

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:45 pm
by gardener
St Giles transcripts
Bapt: 1807, June 14 Ruth d of Elijah & Rachel Williams
Burial: 1805, July 11 Elijah s of Elijah & Rachel Williams
Bapt: 1804, Nov 4 Jas s of Elijah & Rachl Williams
Bapt: 1799 Sept 11 Elija s of Elija & Rachel Williams
Bur: 1798, May 5 Child of Elijah Williams
Bapt: 1797 Aug 27 William s of Elijah & Rachel Williams
Bapt: 1795 Feb 15 Sarah d of Elijah & Sarah Williams
Bapt: 1792 Oct 21 Benjamin s of Elijah & Rachl Williams, 2 years
Bapt: 1792 Oct 21 John s of Elijah & Rachel Williams
Bapt: 1792 Aug 5 Elijah s of John & (Blank) Williams
Mar: 1789 Aug 3 Elija Williams, b & Rachael Smith, sp Wit. Joseph Westwood, James Mucklow


so have:
Ruth 1807***
James 1804 http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family **
Elijah 1799-1805
William 1797 http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family
Sarah 1795
(Mary 1794ish) http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family
John 1792
Benjamin 1790

**
[color=#FFBFBF]groom's name: James Williams
bride's name: Hannah Wright
marriage date: 09 Feb 1824
marriage place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05373-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 435778, 435779
(1841 census has Joseph & Phebe Wright living with James and Hannah)
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Ignore this now, James seems to be unmarried in 1851:
William Williams 53
Elijah Williams 12
James Williams 47

*** Possibly
groom's name: Frederick Priest
bride's name: Ruth Williams
marriage date: 11 Jun 1832
marriage place: Old Swinford,Worcester,England
indexing project (batch) number: M04027-1

1841 same page as John Williams and William Williams
Ruth Priest 35
Mary Priest 3

Re: I have a Question

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:05 pm
by peterd
gardener wrote:I think it would be good to split this off and sort it all out for BCC
There is also this one

Elija s of Elija and Rachel Williams
bpt Sept 1 1799

1851
Elijah Williams 58 batchelor
James Hingley 58 brother in law
Mary Hingley 56 sister
Timothy Hingley 21
Elizah Hingley 21
John Hingley 17
Caroline Hingley 18
Josiah Weston 24
William Knight 18
Maria Bullock 18

and perhaps Mary Hingley is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family




Mary Williams
baptism/christening date11 Jan 1795 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

John Williams
Nancy

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number0873644, 0096891, 476914




Elijah Williams
baptism/christening date05 Aug 1792 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

father's name John Williams

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:08 pm
by peterd
so poss elijah and john brothers ?


is there a marriage for john and nancy ?

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:16 pm
by peterd
this is submitted but if john and elijah are brothers this child could of been born on there journey ?



John Williams
baptism/christening date17 Sep 1786 Kingsnorton, Worcester, Stafford,

John Williams
Nancy Williams

indexing project (batch) numberI03883-0
system originEngland-EASy
source film number325647



Michl. Williams
baptism/christening date20 Jul 1800 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

John Williams
Nancy

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM
source film number0873644, 0096891, 476914



Nanny Williams
baptism/christening date 05 Mar 1797 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,
death date 01 Jan 1802

John Williams
Nancy

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM



Sarah Williams
baptism/christening date12 Jun 1791 ROWLEY REGIS,STAFFORD,

John Williams
Nancy

indexing project (batch) numberP00990-1
system originEngland-ODM

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:17 pm
by gardener
Am I thick or what?

OK,

1851
Elijah Williams 58 batchelor
James Hingley 58 brother in law
Mary Hingley 56 sister
Timothy Hingley 21
Elizah Hingley 21
John Hingley 17
Caroline Hingley 18
Josiah Weston 24
William Knight 18
Maria Bullock 18

As you say, these are children of John and ?Nancy.

I'm a bit lost now.

Re: Elija Williams, & Rachael Smith, married St Giles

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:35 pm
by gardener
Back tracking a bit

Have children for Elijah & Rachel Williams
Ruth 1807
James 1804 http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family
Elijah 1799-1805
William 1797 http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family
Sarah 1795
John 1792
Benjamin 1790 http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family