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Can anyone find out who this Samuel married?

and can we find the family on a census?
James son married 1860 so pre that
need also to confirm dob for Samuel and James

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=71146933

Finally found a James with father Samuel, both about the right ages:

1841 at "New Invention", Wednesfield
Samuel Whitehouse 45 Locksmith
Sophia Whitehouse 40
Enoch Whitehouse 20 Miner
Edward Whitehouse 20
Emma Whitehouse 15
Sophia Whitehouse 13
Samuel Whitehouse 11
James Whitehouse 9
John Whitehouse 7
William Whitehouse 5
Frederic Whitehouse 1

Submitted.

James Whitehouse.
Christening, 13 JAN 1833, Willenhall, Stafford,
Parents:
Samuel Whitehouse.
Sophia.

A possible marriage, extracted.

SAMUEL WHITEHOUSE.
SOPHIA TARBUCK.
Marriage, 08 JUL 1816. Bushbury, Stafford,

I was looking for the family yesterday, its quite confusing as there are James with Children Hannah too all around the same ages.
The family Dianel found are here in 1851, transcribed as Witchann with an alternate name as Whitehouse. I couldnt see James anywhere?
New Invention, Wednesfield
Samuel Whitehouse, head, 55, Locksmith, Willenhall
Sophia, wife, 54, Willenhall
Samuel, son, 20, locksmith, Willenhall
John, son, 15, Willenhall
William, son, 13, Wednesfield
Fredrick, son, 11, Wednesfield

Living nextdoor to them is I
Isaac Tarbuck, head, 35, Locksmith, Wednesfield
Ann, wife, 29, Wednesfield
Sophia, daur,11, Wednesfield
Enoch, son, 3,Wednesfield
Sarah, daur, 2, Wednesfield

two schedules away
EnocH Whitehouse, head, 35, jour Locksmith, Wednesfield
Elizabeth, wife, 23, Willenhall
Emma, daur, 2, Wednesfield
Ellen, daur, 1, Wednesfield

nextdoor to them
William Tarbuck, 41, Coal Miner, Willenhall
jane, wife, 37, Wednesfield
Eliza J,daur, 5, Wednesfield
Mary brookes, aunt, w, 56, Bushbury

What I find confusing is the marriage info for James daughter says

Marriage info
St Lukes Cradley Heath 13 July 1879
-George Taylor- 21-bach-labourer-Rowley Regis-George Taylor- Labourer
-Hannah Whitehouse-19-Spinster-Blackheath-James? Whitehouse-nailer
-banns
-X of both
-Wit-James Taylorand Elizabeth Riley X

Would James change occupation to a nailor? And the places from Wednesfield and Rowley? I'm no good on the area??

1861 Census
Snoyd Lane (?)
William Whitehouse, head, 23, Locksmith
Elizabeth, wife, 21,
Henry, son, 10m,
next,
Samuel, Head, 20, Locksmith master, employing 4 men + 1 boy
Sarah wife, 26,
Mary A, daur, 4,
Matthew, son, 2,
Ellen, niece, 11, serv
Thomas whitehouse, lodger, 43, locksmith
next
Samuel, head, 65, Locksmith master
Sophia, wife, 63
John, son, 25, Locksmith
Frederick, son, 21, Locksmith
next
James, head, 27, Owl? Blade maker
Elizabeth, wife, 29, Salop, Wem
Ann, daur, 7,
Thomas, son, 1

The following page has a couple of families of Tarbucks there.

There are some trees on Ancestry, I was trying to work back from the daughter Hannah who married George Taylor.
one says
James Whitehouse and Hannah Thurman, they have a Hannah born Tipton 1858. She married Daniel Butler. So I think that can be crossed out.
another,
James and Hannah Edwards, their daughter born Blackheath 13th March 1860 registered 10 th May 1860. That shows she never married?
another from the same person has no mothers maiden name then on another tree has Hannah Gibbens. They dont have who she married.
This is the family I followed yestersay,
1841 census
Elizabeth Whitehouse,
Perry Lake, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Whitehouse, 40, nailor
William, 15
John, 15
Joseph, 15,
James, 18

1851 census
Elizabeth Whitehouse, head, wid, 52, retired nail maker
John, son, 25, nailor
Joseph, son. 23. Nailor
James, son, 20, Nailor,

1861 census
Blackheath, Rowley,
James, head, 29, coal miner,
Hannah, wife, 28,
Joseph(?), 10
James, son, 7
Ellen, daur, 6,
William, son, 5,
Elizabeth, daur, 3
Hannah, 1

1871 census
High Street, Blackheath, Rowley Regis
James Whitehouse, head, 40. Rivet Maker, Rowley
EIizabeth, wife, 39, nail maker, Dudley
Ellen, daur, 16, nail maker, Rowley
Elizabeth, 13, daur, nail maker, Rowley
Hannah, daur, 11, Rowley
Thomas, son, 8, Rowley
John, son, 7, Rowley
Sarah, daur, 5, Rowley
Mary Ann, daur, 3, Rowley
Eliza, daur, 1, Rowley


1881 census

113, Oldbury Road, Blackheath
James, head, 49, rivet maker, Rowley
Hannah, wife, 49, nail maker, Dudley
John, son, 17, rivet maker
Sarah, daur, 15, nail maker
Mary Ann, daur, 13,
Eliza, daur, 12,
Alfred, son, 10
Caroline, daur, 9

36,High Street, Blackheath, Rowley
George Taylor, head, 22, Potter, Rowley
Hannah, wife, 21, nailor, Rowley
George, son, 1 month, Rowley

Any volenteers to start putting it on bcc what they can cheers pete

Haven't been following but will add what I can.
I'll also mark which ones I have added

mallosa wrote:Haven't been following but will add what I can.
I'll also mark which ones I have added

cheers mally

grangers14 wrote:I was looking for the family yesterday, its quite confusing as there are James with Children Hannah too all around the same ages.
The family Dianel found are here in 1851, transcribed as Witchann with an alternate name as Whitehouse. I couldnt see James anywhere?
New Invention, Wednesfield
Samuel Whitehouse, head, 55, Locksmith, Willenhall
Sophia, wife, 54, Willenhall
Samuel, son, 20, locksmith, Willenhall
John, son, 15, Willenhall
William, son, 13, Wednesfield
Fredrick, son, 11, Wednesfield

Living nextdoor to them is I
Isaac Tarbuck, head, 35, Locksmith, Wednesfield
Ann, wife, 29, Wednesfield
Sophia, daur,11, Wednesfield
Enoch, son, 3,Wednesfield
Sarah, daur, 2, Wednesfield

two schedules away
EnocH Whitehouse, head, 35, jour Locksmith, Wednesfield
Elizabeth, wife, 23, Willenhall
Emma, daur, 2, Wednesfield
Ellen, daur, 1, Wednesfield

nextdoor to them
William Tarbuck, 41, Coal Miner, Willenhall
jane, wife, 37, Wednesfield
Eliza J,daur, 5, Wednesfield
Mary brookes, aunt, w, 56, Bushbury

I have added up to here on Connections, not sure regarding the rest ......see here

I may be wrong but I have a feeling that the James and Samuel are not connected to Hannah Whitehouse who married George Taylor.
1861 shows James with 2 children, no Hannah. I couldnt find that family in 1871.
On the info for Hannahs marriage it states she is from Blackheath and her father James a nailor.
Has anyone got any thoughts on this? Am I being blinded by Blackheath?
Jo

1861 shows James with 2 children, no Hannah. I couldnt find that family in 1871.

Hi Grangers
A bit lost here, who couldn't you find on the 71

Sorry , not explaining myself.
James Whitehouse, father of Hannah Whitehouse.
On BCC it says Hannah Whitehouse married George Taylor. Hannahs father James Whitehouse and Mother Hannah Gibbons. James father Samuel.
The family with Samuel as head and a son James on the 1841 census appear to live close to each other on other census. There is a James but his wife is Elizabeth and no Hannah on the 1861 census and I couldnt find that family on the 1871.
I hope I have explained myself a bit better.
Jo