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* Archived* -Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:17 pm
by Silver surfer
There are loads of Ben Tromans on BCC but I may have another one. I'm looking for him for a friend. He is probably the one born c1890 and had a father also named Ben. Can anyone find him in 1891 and 1901 censuses please. They lived in Cradley Heath/Cradley area.

Does anyone have access to St Luke CH registers? Young Ben mar Elsie Bradley there in 1915.

Also John Fowkes b1898, could be Halesowen. Is he on 1901 census?

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:55 pm
by Northern Lass
Hi SS found this one in Holly Bank St no 43 RR parish of ST lukes

I have access to the registers at the archives so post on the look ups your look up request
need day, month year or entry no
:wink:
sending you an email

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:59 pm
by grangers14
Could this be him in 1901?
RG13 Piece: 2733 Folio 32 Page 9.

2, Holly Bush Sreet, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Tromans,42, chainmaker, Staffs, Cradley Heath
Pricilla, wife, 40, chainmaker
Rhoda, daur, 16, chainmaker
Benjamin, son, 13,chainmaker
Annie, daur, 10, scholar
Elizabeth Percy(?) boarder, wid, 60, chainmaker
Thomas Percy,boarder,34, chainmaker
Samuel Stevens, B in law, 47, chainmaker
all born Cradley Heath.

the household before
1 Holly Bush Street
Joseph Tromans, head, 40, chain striker
Nancy, wife, 39, chainmaker
Lilly, daur, 19,chainmaker
Annie, daur, 16,chainmaker
Caleb, son, 13, chainmaker,
Mary A, daur, 11,
Amy, daur, 8,
Thomas, son, 5,
Ellen, daur, 2,
Solomon Barnsley, boarder, 33, miner below ground

all born Cradley Heath

Jo :)

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:05 pm
by grangers14
Oh sorry, see you found them :oops:
Jo :)

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:07 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jo...
:grin:

Now we dont have this line on the Connections site does anyone fancy adding them
we can then see how they link into our huge main Tromans line
and this info wont go to waste either Jo :wink:
:shock:

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:43 pm
by Silver surfer
Thanks folks. Looking good. Have found a marriage of Ben Tromans to Priscilla Stevens 1879 St Thoms.

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:54 pm
by peterd
1881 43 Spinners End Rowley Regis, Stafford

Thomas STEVEN 60 Dudley, Worcester, England Chainmaker
Ann STEVEN 54 Cradley Heath, Stafford, England

and

Benjamin TROMANS 23 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Pricilla TROMANS 19 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Alice TROMANS 1 Cradley Heath, Stafford,
Benjamin TROMANS 5 m Cradley Heath, Stafford,


poss this benjamin one died as another 13 in 1901 census



2 doors down

45 Spinners End Rowley Regis, Stafford

Roland TROMANS 42 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Diana TROMANS 40 Quarry Bank, Worcester,
Selvia TROMANS 16 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Theba TROMANS 14 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Emla TROMANS 11 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Scholar
Ann TROMANS 8 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Scholar
William BAKER Lodger W 52 Derby End, Stafford, Cordwinder
Joseph WESTWOOD Lodger W 46 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker


and the other side

1881 37 Spinners End Rowley Regis, Stafford

John TROMANS 67 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Hannah TROMANS 57 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Silvy TROMANS 22 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Mary A. TROMANS 20 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
William FRANCIES Lodger 27 Ireland Surveyor Royal Engineers
Richard WARD Lodger 26 Pick... Surveyor Royal Engineers
Robert MC DONALD Lodger 18 Chatham, Kent, Surveyor Royal Engineers

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:12 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:Could this be him in 1901?
RG13 Piece: 2733 Folio 32 Page 9.

the household before
1 Holly Bush Street
Joseph Tromans, head, 40, chain striker
Nancy, wife, 39, chainmaker
Lilly, daur, 19,chainmaker
Annie, daur, 16,chainmaker
Caleb, son, 13, chainmaker,
Mary A, daur, 11,
Amy, daur, 8,
Thomas, son, 5,
Ellen, daur, 2,
Solomon Barnsley, boarder, 33, miner below ground
all born Cradley Heath

Jo :)



poss marriage

TROMANS Joseph BARNSLEY Nancy 1883 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/038/58


is this joseph in

1881 50 High St Beggars Row , Rowley Regis, Stafford


Joseph TROMANS 44 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Manufacturer
Dinah TROMANS 45 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford,
John TROMANS 24 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Mary Ann TROMANS 21 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Sarah Ann TROMANS 19 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Joseph TROMANS 18 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Eliza TROMANS 17 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
Phebe TROMANS 11 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Clara TROMANS 9 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Elizabeth TROMANS 6 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar


any one find these in 1871 see if benjamin with them ?

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:30 pm
by grangers14
Benjamin wasnt with that family in 1871.
Beggars Row, Rowley
Joseph Tromans, head, 36, chain maker
Dinah, wife, 36,
john, son, 14
Maryann, daur, 12,
Sarah ann, daur, 10
Joseph, son, 8,
Eliza, daur, 6,
Phebe, daur,1

Jo:)

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:37 pm
by peterd
so poss not that family wonder if this his his parent and maybe joseph next door 1901 is cousin or nephew ?


1881 37 Spinners End Rowley Regis, Stafford

John TROMANS 67 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Hannah TROMANS 57 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Silvy TROMANS 22 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
Mary A. TROMANS 20 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Chainmaker
William FRANCIES Lodger 27 Ireland Surveyor Royal Engineers
Richard WARD Lodger 26 Pick... Surveyor Royal Engineers
Robert MC DONALD Lodger 18 Chatham, Kent, Surveyor Royal Engineers


can you see these in 1871 anyone ?

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:42 pm
by grangers14
1891 census has,
43 Holly Bush Sreet
benjamin Tromans, head, 33,
Pricsilla, wife, 29,
Samuel,boarder, 36,
Alice, daur, 11
Sarah, daur, 8,
Rhoda, daur, 6
Benjamin, son, 3,
Annie, daur, 7 m

Jo :)

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:03 pm
by grangers14
Theres this one but Mary A age is out??
1871 census
Redall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
John Truman, heqd, 57,
Hannah, wife, 47,
Esther, daur, 22,
Sarah, daur, 20,
Mary A, daur,18,
Mary Blakeway, mother in law,mar,

also next door but one
Benjamin Tromans,55, Maltser
Rhoda, wife, 45
Esther, daur, 19,
Benjamin, son, 14
Elizabeth, daur,12,
William, son, 5,
Arthur, son, 3,

Jo :)

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:27 pm
by peterd
grangers14 wrote:Theres this one but Mary A age is out??
1871 census
Redall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
John Truman, heqd, 57,
Hannah, wife, 47,
Esther, daur, 22,
Sarah, daur, 20,
Mary A, daur,18,
Mary Blakeway, mother in law,mar,

also next door but one
Benjamin Tromans,55, Maltser
Rhoda, wife, 45
Esther, daur, 19,
Benjamin, son, 14 is this possible benjamin who married Pricilla
Elizabeth, daur,12,
William, son, 5,
Arthur, son, 3,

Jo :)



poss marriage extracted

Benjamin Trowman
Phoebe or Rhoda Perkes
Marriage: 29 JAN 1843 Sedgley, Stafford,

and

Marriages Mar 1843

CALLWOOD Thomas Dudley 18 331
HICHMAN Samuel Dudley 18 331
HICKMAN Samuel Dudley 18 331
HUNT Ann Dudley 18 331
Nayler John Dudley 18 331
PERKES Phoebe Dudley 18 331
PERKES Rhoda Dudley 18 331
TROWMAN Benjamin Dudley 18 331

WARREN Maria Dudley 18 331
Westwood Mary Dudley 18 331

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:48 pm
by peterd
unable to find any christenings on these tromans in this topic ?

Re: Benjamin Tromans

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:08 pm
by Silver surfer
My you have been a busy lot.
My conclusions are:
1901 Ben & Priscilla Tromans and young Ben 13 at 2 Hollybush St.
1891 The same at 43 Hollybush St
1881 43 Spinners End, living with her parents Thomas and Ann Stevens
1871 Possible Benjamin 14 with parents Benjamin and Rhoda at Reddall Hill Rd.

Suppose need Ben and Priscilla's marriage record to prove his father was also a Benjamin.