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Hi
can anyone find this bunch in 1911 please?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ell-Family

Births Sep 1914 Russell Thomas Rose Walsall 6b 1587

can't find even alfreds birth

will sticky this to remind me to get marriage doc.....

so that Islington one is a no go?

did they emigrate anyone see anything on that?

You are thinking that Wm Rose may be with them aren't you!

Northern Lass wrote:You are thinking that Wm Rose may be with them aren't you!

I still think that is him in the loony bin in Wales actually but I just wondered where Jane got too and George Henry too in 1901, we never found him did we?
I should thing Rosanna must have been in the Walsall area in 1911 but just escaped the census.

gardener wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:You are thinking that Wm Rose may be with them aren't you!

I still think that is him in the loony bin in Wales actually but I just wondered where Jane got too and George Henry too in 1901, we never found him did we?
I should thing Rosanna must have been in the Walsall area in 1911 but just escaped the census.

Where? which Loony bin I dont remember that one!!

Northern Lass wrote:

gardener wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:You are thinking that Wm Rose may be with them aren't you!

I still think that is him in the loony bin in Wales actually but I just wondered where Jane got too and George Henry too in 1901, we never found him did we?
I should thing Rosanna must have been in the Walsall area in 1911 but just escaped the census.

Where? which Loony bin I dont remember that one!!

This one

1911: Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
William Rose "“ Inmate "“ 62 "“ Married "“ Miner Birthplace: Unknown "“ Nationality: British "“ Infirmity: Lunatic "“ Language spoken: English

His age is a bit off so it isn't perfect for a fit. His son Samuel was living not far away and is down as a coal miner. There is also a Harry Rose born Sunderland and working as a blacksmith's striker, I wondered about him being George Henry but as far as I know he was not called Harry was he?

We have george Henry here in 1911
1911 2 Navigation Row Tipton
ROSE, George Son Married M 27 1884 Chain Maker Sunderland
ROSE, Clara Wife Married 7 years F 24 1887 Tipton 3 children born all still living
ROSE, Rosannah Daughter F 5 1906 Tipton
ROSE, Lilly Daughter F 4 1907 Tipton
ROSE, James Son M 2 1909 Tipton

here is Samuel
1911 20 Chancery Lane Mountain Ash Glamorganshire
ROSE, Samuel Head Married M 29 1882 Coal Miner Hewer Gateshead Northumberland Sunderland
ROSE, Elizabeth Wife Married 10 years F 31 1880 Woodsetton Staffs
ROSE, Emily Lily Daughter F 6 1905 School Tipton Staffs
ROSE, David Son M 3 1908 Mountain Ash Glam
MORRIS, Annie Sister In Law Single F 22 1889 Domestic Woodsetton Staffs
DOWNS, Fred Half Brother M 10 1901 School Dudley Worcs

Brought this back as I have just got marriage certif

15 August 1906 Walsall Register Office
Alfred Frederick Russell 42 years Widower Saddle tree rivetter 186 Milton Street Walsall Peter Russell Saddle treee rivetter
Rosannah Rose 21 Years spinster 111 Victor Street Walsall William Rose Cable chain maker
both signed
Wit - Richard Timmins Emily E Timmins

very interesting I think
father for Rosannah Rose is a William Rose Cable chain maker
address for Rosannah in 1906 is
111 Victor Street Walsall

Afred Frederick Russell is wid 42 so b abt 1864 address on marriage 186 Milton? Street Walsall father is a Peter Russell Saddle tree riveter

so not the Islington one will peel that info off and archive

so who is this Alfred
where is he in 1911

do they emigrate can someone look pls

got him in 1891 with first wife will add that

but could someone check the emigration records pls after 1906 see if they leave England

Ok got him I think in 1911 no Rosannah with him

so got him 1891 /1901 and 1911

1891 64 Cobden St Walsall
Alfred Russell head married Saddle tree riviter 27 b Walsall?
Ellen Russell wife 25 b West Bromwich
Elsie May dau 4 mths b Walsall

1901 31 Navigation St Walsall
Frederick Russell head married 37 labourer painter
Ellen Russell wife 35 b West Brom
Elsie Russell dau 10
Elizabeth Russell dau 7 b Princes End
Kate Russell dau 4 b Princess End
Alice Russell dau 9 mths
all others b Walsall

I think this could be Alfred minus Rosannah in 1911
1911 13 Victoria St, Victoria Road, Smethwick
John Henry Fallows 42 head married 18 years no children Plasterers labourer b Birmingham
Fanny Maria Fallows 43 wife b Chepstow?
Alfred Russell 49 boarder married labourer scaffolder? Painter?
Lizzie Russell 18 boarder
Kate Russell 15 boarder
others born Walsall

odd on 1911 no Rosannah with him

hmmmm now I had a note that Thomas Russell born 1914 was son of Rosannah Rose

however I dont have certif so other than maiden name of mother is Rose and info given me ages ago
it may not be our rellie.

and I dont think that Thomas Rose married Kathleen may fellows in 1941
that one may have been married to a Thomas rose son of Edwin and florrie Russell and he dies in Italy in 1944
Kathleen goes on I think to marry in 1948 but not sure

So Thomas Russell may be son of Rosannah and Alfred or not

and then dunno what happens to him

Think I am done with this one now

cant see Rosannah Russell on 1911 at all

unless anyone else can will flag to archive this